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Chivalry
March 01 2018
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RHP User
8 years ago
You don’t have to open the door ‘cause I’m a lady! I’m not madam. I’m opening it because I am a gentleman. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Sorry in advance to disappoint ladies that say ''we can do things ourselves'' and etc personally its nice to have a guys that are polite and sweet to have common sense to help out, maybe I'm old fashion but guys that mind their manners while being helpful are more appealing. I always find men that are gentlemen with good manners to be a turn on as makes wonder how's that gentleman gonna be a bad boy in bed 😉 - Posted from rhpmobile
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madotara69
8 years ago
Political correctness hit the big times, no more 'Yo ho ho', just 'Hey Santa Clause you cunt, where's me fuck'n bike, I've unwrapped all this other junk and there's nuffin that I like, you geriatric old bastard', I caught mummy sucking Santa off' These days, fuck'm let them open the door themselves, get drenched in the pissing down wet, take their own coat off to hang, 'but she can leave her hat on', pay half the meal and tip, let em walk home in the dark and they will be ringing the bloke all fizzing at the bung to ask him out on a second date, no mention of meeting the mother at all. Go the mums, god love'm, some things should never change and that's our mum's and 'where have all the flowers gone' Mado Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
8 years ago
since it seems you don't want to hear my opinion, let's all just agree women should be soooooo grateful for these chivalrous acts, even if........well no I can't say that because it's a different opinion to yours, so I'll just agree okay? 😀
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RHP User
8 years ago
Are definitely a good thing, Meander nailed it I think. Manners has no gender. I hold doors open for men, and they do the same for me. A simple thank you is all that is required :)
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RHP User
8 years ago
I alway say “thank you peasant” as I walk passed. Just jokes. I think it’s a nice thing to do. Half the time I stand at door ways with the guy saying after you, then I say no, after you... and 5 min argument always ensues.
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tiffyos
8 years ago
On the exact same lines, I now feel we have lost a "learnt respect for women" and all women ( young and older ) due to this move in society. Example: I thought it was always good manners where appropriate to acknowledge the lovely effort a lady has made to look nice. This is nothing about telling only 20 something year olds she look real pretty, more so when you see a lady who has obviously made an effort to look nice, she has a well suited outfit on and just looks good, you could say something to acknowledge her like, "That dress looks Lovely on you", and mean nothing more. How many women get told by a complete stranger, that they " look good in that", whilst going to or from work??? Now days you just get put on a list, so much for chivalry and treating women with respect without fear of being misjudged. We like to acknowledge a woman who dresses nice, who has done her makeup well, but without wife beside me, I'd get reported, sad really.
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RHP User
8 years ago
Beats manners, kindness and good old fashioned respect. I am old school and the same as Meander. MadoandTara Unfortunately most of this has gone and the generation we are raising has no freaking idea about these things. Get my flak jacket if I am wrong. Blanket statement and just an observation. Ms Midnight
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DynamicCouple36
8 years ago
That good manners & respect go a long way . At least for us. As long as it’s unconditional and no expectations - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
...letting her go first and think it quite chivalrous of me. Mind, I get to look at her ass and even better if she's in a short skirt trying to slither into my little sports car. 🙃🤔⚡️ - Posted from rhpmobile
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Salubrious1
8 years ago
yes, 20 years ago I was abused by a young woman with 2 small children for asking her if she would like a seat . I was shocked at the time . It hasn't stopped me from being me , I was brought up to respect others .Sadly something now lacking in much of our society. I still hold open doors for anyone, any age but giving up a seat to a woman is now age related . The only thing that I do in my opinion that could be deemed as sexist is if I saw a man with a flat tyre I wouldn't stop to help but if I saw a woman in the same predicament I'd stop and ask if she needed a hand . I'd stop for pensioner aged men as well .
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Rlee552
8 years ago
Enjoying the symmetry that right below this topic about chivalry, there is one about who should sleep in the wet patch (Revnt Topics). Lol
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RHP User
8 years ago
I'll admit I'm not a fan of the word chivalry because of the gender association. I much prefer respect and courtesy, applied to anyone regardless of gender. OP, you say you don't open doors etc. for women because of any gender-based reason, but because you think it's good manners and respect. I would therefore assume that you also open doors etc. for men? If not then it would be worth reflecting on your reasons and why there should be any difference for your response to women vs men. To be clear, I don't condone women abusing men for opening a door, offering a seat etc. That's not acceptable IMO and I would never do it.
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RHP User
8 years ago
Quoting 'tiffyos' On the exact same lines, I now feel we have lost a "learnt respect for women" and all women ( young and older ) due to this move in society. Example: I thought it was always good manners where appropriate to acknowledge the lovely effort a lady has made to look nice. This is nothing about telling only 20 something year olds she look real pretty, more so when you see a lady who has obviously made an effort to look nice, she has a well suited outfit on and just looks good, you could say something to acknowledge her like, "That dress looks Lovely on you", and mean nothing more. How many women get told by a complete stranger, that they " look good in that", whilst going to or from work??? Now days you just get put on a list, so much for chivalry and treating women with respect without fear of being misjudged. We like to acknowledge a woman who dresses nice, who has done her makeup well, but without wife beside me, I'd get reported, sad really. Are you telling random men on the street that they look good? Many men put quite a lot of effort into looking good these days so why not acknowledge their efforts as well? Thing is, the actions you're talking about are not indicators of respect and courtesy - if they were then you'd be complimenting men as well - and this is where I think some men get it mixed up. If I'm heading to work or wherever then I really don't need random strange guys on the street telling me that I look good. Then they usually expect some sort of acknowledgement of their 'niceness' and if I don't then I'm a bitch or stuck up or whatever. There's a sense of entitlement to your attention and time that I don't like, and many other women don't like. Plus, think about it, how would you differentiate between a guy telling you that you look good because he's just trying to be 'nice' and one who's telling you that because he's trying to hit on you? I know some women don't mind guys doing what you're talking about, however I suspect that in many cases it would depend on the woman's assessment of the guy doing it, e.g. a guy they consider attractive vs a shabbily dressed guy with 6 months worth of dirt under his fingernails.
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RHP User
8 years ago
Chivalry may be a dying thing. As Miss Dragon put it I know a few females and males who see it as gender specific. So it basically comes down to respect, courtesy and manners and I show all three to anyone either female or male. Open a door, hold it open or offer a seat it makes no difference just do it. I always make sure to thank anyone sincerely who does this for me as well.
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RHP User
8 years ago
Don't run for the flak jacket but I love watching my nearly six year old nephew being such a little gentleman he always makes me smile at his thoughtfulness and generosity. My nine year old niece is just the same. It is all about passing down those wonderful attributes.
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RHP User
8 years ago
I don't class my acts of kindness as Chivalry, I'll hold the door regardless of gender. you could be attractive, special needs or homeless, to me it makes no difference. I have been very strict with my daughter understanding that manners play a very big part of who we are and how we present ourselves. Sure she has all the "tude" that comes with preteen but I have had comments about her manners and appreciation for others. I guess in that regard I'm doing ok. BB
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RHP User
8 years ago
Quite the gentleman.These days with all the feminism equality thing andhearing too many stories of guys being abused and having beenon the receiving end of similar nasty looks.I have decided that well if women want equality then, no special treatment.I will hold a door or a lift for a woman, but also for a another guy.
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Hawt1
8 years ago
I always thought it polite to hold the door for anybody... provided I am not letting the aircon out or the flies in. Had a woman run me down with a shopping trolley one time, came at me from the side and kept rolling after impact. I was flabbergasted.. did ask after her back "What am I, invisible?" I can only hope it was some emergency she was tending to and not absolutely crap manners. Doesn't rain much and there aren't any elevators, creepy people are rare where I live so dont much get the chance to be all chivalrous. I do know women who get all butt hurt if you do not open their car doors though. Makes me feel like I am driving miss daisy like a paid chauffeur when it is insisted upon, all this fuss just to get out of the service station. Similar to Meanders comment so I think. Quoting 'Meander'What I don't like is when the gesture becomes exaggerated, like when a guy lets me go first in a way that says "Look what I'm doing for you, aren't I a gentleman?"Then it becomes about demanding to be rewarded in some way. Not the same for me. Meander. Just a thought.. maybe he is not, maybe he isn't sure it is safe on the other side of the door so better you than him? lol
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RHP User
8 years ago
I don't believe there's such a thing as too much courtesy, unless you're some kind of over the top weirdo. My insignificant courtesy could be the difference between someone's bad day and "Well, things aren't so bad after all.." When I step into a plane, or walk into an IGA, I smile warmly and "Hi, how're you..?" Or a similar greeting.It's that easy and only has benefits. To everyone involved...including me. I believe this because I feel good when a stranger smiles and greets me warmly. And I don't believe I'm unique. If someone were to take that the wrong way, then it's not going to upset me...because I trust that their issue is really not with me, but is something within themselves. Unless I was being a dick. Which I don't. Usually.
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RHP User
8 years ago
Ha ha I was just thinking the same thing 😜 great minds..... - Posted from rhpmobile
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madotara69
8 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' Political correctness hit the big times, no more 'Yo ho ho', just 'Hey Santa Clause you cunt, where's me fuck'n bike, I've unwrapped all this other junk and there's nuffin that I like, you geriatric old bastard', I caught mummy sucking Santa off' These days, fuck'm let them open the door themselves, get drenched in the pissing down wet, take their own coat off to hang, 'but she can leave her hat on', pay half the meal and tip, let em walk home in the dark and they will be ringing the bloke all fizzing at the bung to ask him out on a second date, no mention of meeting the mother at all. Go the mums, god love'm, some things should never change and that's our mum's and 'where have all the flowers gone' Mado Mado Tara xx By: Pete SeegerPerformed by: The Kingston Trio The overall meaning of the song "Where have all the Flowers Gone" is that history repeats itself. The phrase "When will they ever learn" refers to the idea that society fails to break the continuous cycle that history is know to be. He would refuse to discuss the meanings of his songs, seeing himself as just another milestone in an endless tradition:.
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RHP User
8 years ago
Ha ha I was just thinking the same thing 😜 great minds..... Chivalry is not dead. I’ve met many a gentleman who are kind, respectful, courteous and thoughtful. I won’t accept anything less. I also notice and appreciate these qualities and will thank them and show them it’s appreciated. Mind you I carry myself in a lady like manner as well, (in public anyway 😉) With so many choices, a gentleman will always win me over and above anyone else. Certainly indicates to me their character and nature. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Pete Seeger was a true musician and lyricist, grew up listening to him and Tom Paxton.
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gazpacho
8 years ago
That’s slapping a persons face with a leather glove? I love that! Slap me anytime, mister! As for holding doors and other normal shit, I just do that because that’s who I am. Dragged up that way, I suppose. Hugs Gaz
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tiffyos
8 years ago
Quoting 'pangolin28' Chivalry may be a dying thing. As Miss Dragon put it I know a few females and males who see it as gender specific. So it basically comes down to respect, courtesy and manners and I show all three to anyone either female or male. Open a door, hold it open or offer a seat it makes no difference just do it. I always make sure to thank anyone sincerely who does this for me as well. I see what your saying but also must stress if I do comment about a lady it, has nothing to do with their body, but as you say, about their overall appearance, without alignment to age or size or anything else. I definitely agree with making sure when you paying the compliment you yourself don't look like a bag of shit with a knot tied in the middle, sort of defeats the purpose. I suppose these things are a way of the past, I never saw them as belittling more so as respect for good standards. I do believe chivalry is more about respect and manners than anything else.
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RHP User
8 years ago
😉
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RHP User
8 years ago
😉
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RHP User
8 years ago
I have found that opening doors for women , giving up seat on a bus, or paying for dinner is going. I think that extreme feminists are killing it. We are told we cant use this phrase or that offends someone. I find if you say a women looks nice in that dress you might offend her. I have found it she finds you attractive its ok, but if she do sent like the look of you are a creep. I think its crazy minefield of pc culture. I wonder what it will be like in 20 years.
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Hawt1
8 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' I wouldn't actually say ugh, I'd be pleasant. In my head though I'd be thinking "Oh Jesus fucking Christ". (If they were over 60 though, I'd get they were a product of their upbringing and never learnt differently). Sometimes I have a taste for the dramatic, I can say I have done this, although absolutely without any thought for reciprocation as if a lady owes me anything. My happy cheeky grin would give away my intention and put a person at ease I am sure.
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Hawt1
8 years ago
Quoting 'CandyD' I alway say “thank you peasant” as I walk passed. Just jokes. I think it’s a nice thing to do. Half the time I stand at door ways with the guy saying after you, then I say no, after you... and 5 min argument always ensues. Ok, we do it together on three 1, 2, I rush through the door and hold it open over your head grinning from ear to ear ;)
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RHP User
8 years ago
I am so surprised when a guy does these things pays for dinner ,holds the door open, goes to the bar to get you a drink. Uses his manners , The little things matter. It doesn’t happen often but I guess I’m still a little old fashioned and I guess I was raised to respect others and chivalry is respect. So but I am finding it happens far too less it’s practically extinct. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Aka being a gentleman can be summed up by waiting for her to finish doing the dishes before pissing in the sink .... 😂😂 Disclaimer: nawww you’re all big enough to know that it’s a joke, so get fucked 😂😂 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' Can I just say I really don't like being referred to as "a female"? Just call me a woman already. Or a person or human. Ta x Just stirring
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joanne1991
8 years ago
Thinks the world has gone mad. I'm one for the white night and chivalry by both genders nights and maidens no discrimination here
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RHP User
8 years ago
If you want something from someone do something for them first. Be it a chivalrous act or a genuine show of respect. Be it man or woman. Chivalry in the modern sense is showing respect. - Posted from rhpmobile
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bonefide
8 years ago
Not all of use young lady, just gotta look around the crap to fined them. People can look at the whole package and have a connection, without focusing on the horizontail naked cardio work out. Plus Anti has never done the dishes. LOL
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curiousnhorny05
8 years ago
If you open the door for me, you’ll put a smile on my face, I will hold the door a little so you can sneak through I might add. I like the idea of someone buying me dinner without any strings. Or doing something kind or romantic. It shows in the bedroom as well I think. So guys feel free to be chivalrous to me, I appreciate it. But still be impressed by my independence when its warranted and it’s all good. I believe women should show more courtesy to guys also in general. Sometimes we can be unkind and that’s never fun. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Seems these threads are just voices that commonly use these to sound out, same people and when anyone else enters the room it's attack time, seriously look at yourselves
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RHP User
8 years ago
It's called equality ... and trying to treat people how you'd prefer to be treated. I hold a door or an elevator for the person, not just cause she looks like a frail chick. Having kids, I'll hold an elevator for a mums with a pram and reluctant toddler for as long as she needs. It's not being chivalrous, it's just basic courtesy. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Being polite and having manners has nothing to do with gender, I hold the door for any one, If I see someone who needs a hand I usually offer to assist. The world is full of ass hats I try not to add to it. - Posted from rhpmobile
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bearstogether
8 years ago
I tell both sexes when they look nice when I can see they have made an effort. I open doors for people as I see me as people, not a girl or boy but as a person. If I know someone and they are looking done up, I say that they are looking exceptional.i am in emergency services and if a uniform is on they are a member not a sex . We need on both sides of the equation to see people as people , not damsels in distress or hero wanna be. If we can do this to each other , treat with respect and integrity , the world would be a much nicer place , less depression and anxiety.
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RHP User
8 years ago
Decency, kindness and mutual respect and gender neutral decency, kindness and mutual respect in particular are difficult to teach if they're not at least in part inherent. Chivalry of course as practised by chevaliers in fuedal times is not quite apt.
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RHP User
8 years ago
The word Chivalry I think is a bit outdated as we are no longer in medieval times. However, I do believe in being polite and courteous, which includes opening doors for woman if appropriate. I also held the lift doors for a guy the other week. They were just closing when I noticed a guy walking hurriedly towards the lifts, so I pushed the open button. He was very grateful and thanked me. I told him no problem as it had only held me up by around 10 seconds. He mentioned something about everyone seems to be in a hurry nowadays.
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SandeGiny
8 years ago
Common courtesy should apply to both genders. Open or Hodor for me, thankyou: there's no medal in it for you though, i just take it to mean you're not self-centred and oblivious to those around you. If I think a lady or man looks spiffy, i make it known to them. Knowing they'll smile a little bit as they walk away is enough reward for me. 20 paces on rhe other hand? Nah you can keep your chivalry. ;) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
There are lots of things I could do myself, that men have offered to do for me. Whatever the motive I used to politely decline on the basis that I didn't need help. But isn't it more fun to let a man serve me by letting him do it instead? I think these offers have far more to do with men wanting to feel useful, than any comment on women's abilities. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
I will always hold a door open for others, offer a seat etc....if they don't accept it I don't take it to heart. Being a gentleman is also about how you take the acceptance or decline not just the act. Anyway I know that there is always one person who appreciates me opening the car door for her and she matters most. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Seriously.. What has happened to the human race. If those women can't manage a lovely person, male or female, doing small acts of good, please take a hard long look at yourselves. Pathetic.. I always and always will be kind to others and hope our kids grow to get passed all this crap all the unimportant stuff people focus on.. It's bad enough today we don't look up from our phones and say hi to our people. Thankfuck we have some beautiful people like you left.. Keep it up, do what you feel is right .. Stuff all those rude shallow people. Xx - Posted from rhpmobile
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technologic
8 years ago
Please don't let the actions of few women who, for some perhaps, sure to past experience find chivalry offensive. Perhaps they had too many times felt oogling eyes or worse on their bum while being let through a door? Who knows. It's all in the motivation/spirit that's really at fault rather than using the blanket judgement that all acts of chivalry/politeness/consideration are acts of subjugation. A real crying shame that the men of today are missing out on learning these kind of manners for fear of being abused. 😟 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Most of the acts that you describe are just being considerate to other humans period. I think people should be encouraged to be polite to others regardless of sex. I've held a door open for both a guy of a girl because I think it's rude to let the door slam into someones face regardless of sex, and I expect people to return the favour in kind. It's nice to experience a random act of kindness from a stranger, it renews your faith in humanity.
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RHP User
8 years ago
forget about chivalry how about common courtesy and manners thrown in. Guess what manners and friendliness is for free and cost nothing OMG its free !!!!! This world has gone down hill FAST mp.s Just think the next generation is going to run the country OMg
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RHP User
8 years ago
Yes I hold a door, lift etc.... for men and women. It’s just being curtious and showing manners. I’m appreciative if anyone does it for me. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
I don't care bout the P.C. At parties the amount of women looking for genuine gentlemen is not funny. I have found that in my experience the women go to swing parties looking for that chivalry that has been lost or not allowed in everyday society. I will maintain my up bringing and have that respect for a woman as many women still respect a man being a gentleman to the women. Those guys who chose to be pork chops to women wonder why they do not do so well or nothing happens at a party or event. Perhaps read a book and see how the old interaction between man and woman used to be done for absolutely no expections and nothing in return. Just be a giving person with nothing in return. Open that door, acknowledge both sexes and enjoy interaction. Stand up if you are sitting down to handshake or acknowledge another person if they are man or female.
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RHP User
7 years ago
I don’t get in the car to go on a date if the door is not opened for me. I’m old school and would probably throw the women’s liberation movement back 60+ years. I like to be treated like a lady in public and a whore in the bedroom. Don’t get me wrong tenderness is yummy too but if there aren’t the basic old fashioned chivalrous behaviours in place before hand - to me it’s a fairly strong indication that it’s all downhill from there. To be honest, it is why I started dating European men. Classic manners, it is a strong first impression. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
It’s a small gesture that’s getting over politicised. It’s not special treatment, it’s just a nice thing to do. I never expect it but if a guy opens a door for me, well damn I feel warm and fuzzy. If I see that same guy with a briefcase, two phones and an umbrella, I’ll open the door for him NBD. We’ve been nice humans and we get on with our days. ..... and with any luck we are both going to the carpark where we can duck like bunnies. - Posted from rhpmobile
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