Chivalry - does it still exist??

August 05 2015

this topic may have been covered before... On a recent first date I was surprised to have the door opened for me. Which reminded me how much I enjoy chivalry and how much I miss it. In my family, regardless of the female's age, the man always opened the door for us, helped with the coat, offered to carry our bags, walked up the stairs behind us and down in front of us... For me it's something I've grown up with. I'm not saying I can't do these things for myself, I'm very much capable of opening my own doors. But I personally appreciate the gesture. I regularly offer the same to a male, I think it comes down to respect and common courtesy, and for me they are small but significant gestures. I've often heard arguments for both sides. Men who no longer are chivalrous because too many ladies have thrown it back in their faces. Ladies who think such gestures imply they are incapable creatures and are offended. What are your views? What are your expectations? As a female, would you like your man to open the door for you or do you find it belittling? As a man, are you chivalrous or have you been knocked back too many times? I'm not talking about feminism here or gender inequality or the woman being the weaker gender. I'm talking about simple, inter-personal interactions and small deeds. My arm won't fall off opening a door for a man. Why would I bite his off for doing the same in return? Over to you RHP'ers NN xxx - Posted from rhpmobile

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    And have never ever encountered anyone who I didn't appreciate it or at least smile when I've opened a door or let a woman enter a lift first. And that is working with some successful, intelligent and high educated women. For me it is just who I am, how I've been brought up and just a little thing I can do to be nice to others. Also can be chivalrous to other men, helped a blind man on a bus yesterday. I think it is just common courtesy and thinking of others does me good :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I open doors for both men and women. But don't read into that too much.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Personally, I really appreciate a man who still has chivalrous traits; I feel it's one way of showing courtesy and respect and do not get offended by it. In saying that though, I don't expect it from a man (but it's definitely a bonus when he is). I work with a lot of men and the majority of them are still chivalrous...but then again the majority of them are over 40 too, so I do believe it's a generational thing. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I love it when a man opens a door for me. I used to love along anywhere with my grandfather - he was totally aware, respectful and proud of, the fact that I am a strong, capable woman, but he'd still unconsciously steer me to the inside of the footpath, away from the curb, and hold my elbow when crossing the road. I work with a lovely gentleman who stands when a lady walks into the room - no awkwardness, totally graceful and just gives you a little smile and then sits back down. I'm very much a feminist, but I don't think that means that men can't treat their special women with some respect. In the same way that, if I reach a door before a few people behind me, I'll stand back and hold it open for them with a smile, or am happy to offer my seat to someone on the train who looks like they think they could use it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I like manners, kindness and consideration. I appreciate a man holding a door for me, and I would do the same for him. Hey, I'd help him into his coat, if I didn't only date tall guys ;-) Even if I felt an act (like pulling back a chair) was completely unnecessary, I wouldn't pull my nose up at the gesture. A lot of men my age and above were raised to be chivalrous, and it's part of who they are. Who am I to criticise that? It's only those who overdo it and give you a proud look of "see what I did there?" that annoy me. I'll always say thanks (that's the way I myself was raised), but some guys I've met expected a grateful "oh my gosh!" and didn't get it. There are one or two exceptions that I view as patronising, rather than helpful. When crossing a street, don't grab my upper arm without asking. I'm not a child and can negotiate traffic myself. Offering his arm or hand is so much more pleasant and gives me a choice to accept or decline. My view.

  • Hottie1

    Hottie1

    10 years ago

    I have a 19 year old and he makes me proud all the time. I have heart tug moments when I see his capacity to be a decent human being and help others, despite their gender. Offering his chair to older men and women, helping people with their shopping, even holding an elderly man's hand and helping him cross the street. His sister, my beautiful daughter, is still a work in progress lol, but she too is such a good, considerate person. Chivalry is but a word, your actions towards others speak volumes. Be the best possible person you can be, always be attentive to your company and make them feel that they are important, do the things that make you both feel good about yourselves. My pet peeve, inconsideration towards others, show respect to your company, you've chosen them to be your company, you've obviously done it for a reason! Mwah Mary xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    2 sisters and a single mum. I learned pretty quickly. Being labeled as a 'nice guy' has only just started paying dividends. I think there is an age women get to when they seek a nice guy over a set of nice arms and edgy hairstyle. Personally I've found this with a lot of younger women (

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Ive met some gentlemen on here. Courteous, attentive and well educated in manners. And always willing to help out, even if its just for a listening ear. So chivalry is still alive and well, hurrah!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Incapable of mowing the lawn, changing a Fuse or lighting the hot water system. However I like good manners and it shows some care of others. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Was very much about how knights ie high born men treated women...So yes it's outdated as a term...but the actions of treating people with courtesy should apply to all of us...if someone wants to open a door,even pull out a chair..a remnant left over from when women wore voluminous dresses I think...I have no objection ..xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I frequently have doors opened for me at work by males of all ages and occasionally by females, who are usually younger than me. It's not just because I have an armful of supplies either as most of the doors are push doors.I'll gladly return the courtesy and open doors and swing gates if I'm nearby and it looks as if someone could use a little help. Also with returning the courtesy I never fail to say "thank you" when someone helps me out, even if I could have managed on my own.

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    10 years ago

    part of my own upbringing, and it is something that I do as an automatic response according to the situation. Chivalry, manners, courtesy, call it what you like - I actually derive pleasure from doing the "small" things that are appreciated by others. Opening doors. pulling out chairs, standing when a lady arrives or leaves at a table, and so on - just plain ol' common courtesy IMHO. The number of times I've been asked to help ladies reach items from the high shelves...I like doing those things as it is a simple act of showing someone else you have some decency and generally just care - makes me feel good too. Tall

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I have yet to meet someone that does not enjoy being made to feel special, I dont mean in the special school bus type of special, but that they are important, what they do and say matters, that they know that their happiness is something that makes me happy. They can't just know this on faith, it must be demonstrated constantly via self sacrificing acts. Its called chivalry and it comes naturally from within towards all those around you. Does it still exist? Yes, but maybe not in the same fashion as times past. It is a function of personality and some people will always be so because as a species it does us good to have those types of people. So yes yes and good on them yes it still exists. So glad i am not one of those types.

  • compressor

    compressor

    10 years ago

    Yes chivalry is still alive and I guess I was bought up that way. from my point of view I like to treat a lady like a lady

  • NawtyNNice777

    NawtyNNice777

    10 years ago

    to rephrase. Yes I'm talking about common courtesy here, a little respect and kindness towards our fellow human beings. I agree with the other posters, it's a two way street. I would offer my seat to anyone in need, be it the elderly, a pregnant lady, someone who is injured... It's unfortunate IMHO that the younger generation has lost it to a great degree. It's something I was brought up with and so without hesitation. Makes me sick to my stomach how some young kids (and teens) treat others, it's something that would never cross my mind. NN xxx - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Blindman67' I have yet to meet someone that does not enjoy being made to feel special, I dont mean in the special school bus type of special, but that they are important, what they do and say matters, that they know that their happiness is something that makes me happy. They can't just know this on faith, it must be demonstrated constantly via self sacrificing acts. Its called chivalry and it comes naturally from within towards all those around you. Does it still exist? Yes, but maybe not in the same fashion as times past. It is a function of personality and some people will always be so because as a species it does us good to have those types of people. So yes yes and good on them yes it still exists. So glad i am not one of those types. liking ur posts recently blind! Interesting perspective

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    ...I don't really believe in chivalry...I think it's an out-of-touch concept...but I'm a great supporter of courtesy. Always. It's free and it should usually have a positive effect.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Have no problem being chivalrous with friends or in company. Strangers not so much, being a rude cunt is not being feminist, it's just being rude. So with strangers if I detect the bitch vibe their on their own. Prams and the elderly no probs.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Can't get enough.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    pretty much sums up my feelings on this subject as well. Chivalry = a big no Manners and being a decent human being to all other human beings regardless of gender = a big yes

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I am not that sure about this chivalry stuff. If you go to a nice restaurant the waiter (or whatever) will pull the chair our for both, if you have enough money to afford a Limo, the driver will open the door for both of you. If you can't afford or do not have the professional services, I find no problem opening a door, or pulling out a chair, or whatever for my partner. It is just really nice to feel special. I would have no problem, if they were quick enough and beat me, in a woman opening a car door or pulling out a chair for me. It has never happened (not sure why) but there should be nothing wrong with it. It is nice to make a person (especially your partner) feel special. Same with a lot of things (can I get you a drink, can I help you with this, or that). It can go either way and there should be no pressure, just a feeling of being appreciated and special. Thank you.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    and always. To one and all, it just comes down to common courstesy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Remove that s please

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Freya70' Was very much about how knights ie high born men treated women...So yes it's outdated as a term...but the actions of treating people with courtesy should apply to all of us...if someone wants to open a door,even pull out a chair..a remnant left over from when women wore voluminous dresses I think...I have no objection ..xxFreya originally it just meant horse soldiers, chevalier coming from "cheval" (old french for horse) and so on, with corruption of thw word to become chivalry.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I hope you get the latest version that addresses the entitlement bug.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    It was Eleanor of Aquitaine who instituted her Courts of Love because the Knights were uncouth in their treatment of the ladies of the Court..The word chivalry then took on another meaning xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    It was Eleanor of Aquitaine who instituted her Courts of Love because the Knights were uncouth in their treatment of the ladies of the Court..The word chivalry then took on another meaning xxFreya