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Happy Endings
June 13 2016
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RHP User
10 years ago
It's cheating if your partner does not know or approve.
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RHP User
10 years ago
In my opinion Mrs LAL - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
that's cheating in my world
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RHP User
10 years ago
That's retro - sad but true !
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RHP User
10 years ago
... and call out ''Hey honey, I'm home! I copped a hand job at the little Thai shop near the office today so please factor in a couple of hundred in the budget this month when you're paying the bills.'' If the cast iron fry pan ricochets off your forehead, yes it was wrong. Simple.... next question?
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RHP User
10 years ago
Yes it is common practice. Is it cheating to me..... Well if he gives himself a hand job too, is that cheating? I'm out on this one. I say this because, Im sure all he thought about was relief. Men need that. I really don't think there would if been anymore thought to it than that. I do undestand how others think it was cheating. I just think its part of a sensual massage. Yep, don't sweat over it. 😇 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Is this even a question??! Really?! A stranger performs s sexual act upon a guy, presumably without his partners consent.... and the question is asked? Hmmmmm. & Picture still prints?! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Summed it up perfectly 😀 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
I think the perception of a hand job paid for...depends on whether the partner-not-present see's it as cheating. I don't think the recipients opinion defines it. By their reasoning, I could pay a sex worker for intercourse and have no qualms about it.To follow...for sex, I could "pay" a woman I've met with drinks and a ride home.See where I'm going with this line of reasoning?If it's being hidden from the partner...even a simple rub and tug...it's getting shady. If she's cool with it...cool.These matters are so much simpler when your single..
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RHP User
10 years ago
Cheating or not is a matter of personal opinion as well as the relationship dynamics, but if your partner feels the need to do something outside of the relationship that is not shared regardless of how far it goes you need to ask what is missing and what you might like to do about it. Most guys find that it is the sensual touch that they desire from a massage even more than needing the happy ending (added bonus). It's a basic human need to be touched and sensually is the best of all. A man also has a basic need to ejaculate, sounds like this guy didn't go out of his way but took an opportunity that was there, also doesn't sound like it rocked his world either so I understand the don't sweat it advice. If it was within my relationship I wouldn't be judging I'd be changing.
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RHP User
10 years ago
yes it would be, but I say go for it, only live once
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RHP User
10 years ago
If he did he would not be "cheating" buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut if he was alone and watching PORN..... I can just here the divorce papers being drawn up
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RHP User
10 years ago
Of course it is! - Posted from rhpmobile
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Service_man
10 years ago
I would have thought he went in for a Thai Massage to get relaxation --not be pumped up
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RHP User
10 years ago
My ex and I went to Vietnam many years ago with another couple. In the lift was a big sign advertising the spa below the hotel. It has a picture of men and women together enjoying the spa, etc and looked very professional, so we decided to treat ourselves. The male half of the other couple wasn't interested, so it was just the girls and me. When we arrived, we got the sense that we have surprised the staff and wondered whether we had caught them at a busy time or something. I was ushered through to the change room and was then hosed and scrubbed...prison style. 😕 Then I was lead to the large room with the spa, where I expected the girls to join me...but they didn't. So I got dressed in a gown and slippers and was led to a massage room. The massage was Ok but then the girl put her hands on my cock. Realising what was going on, I said "No". She said "$200". I said "No. I am married". She said "$100". I sat up and pointed to my ring finger and gestured towards my groin trying to get the message across that I only wanted a massage..no happy ending. Conveniently she spoke little english, apart from money, but eventually she relented. Or more to the point, stopped actually touching my cock but did her best to make me change my mind. So I lay down, thinking that it is Ok as long as she leaves my dick alone. Well my ex walked past, spied the girl half on the table, burst through the door and all hell broke loose. She went bananas and was looking to get on the next plane home to get the divorce papers drawn up. I told her every detail of what had transpired and eventually she calmed down. Apparently their "massages" involved a lot of breast rubbing. And that was what caught the staff out. They weren't geared towards women. In the end it all became a joke, but if I had allowed the happy ending to happen....it would not have been a happy ending.
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sweetgem
10 years ago
Emotionally no, the man did not cheat on his partner, as he only had it done by a pair of professional hands and there was no emotions or feelings involved, nor is it a repeating event. Physically yes, the man allowed someone outside his relationship accessed his penis, which is supposed to be touched by his partner only as that is exclusive for her to access and touch. So, if I was the partner and found out that my man had a happy ending done at a Thai massage place, it would have to depend on circumstances, that is whether or not I was healthy and abled to satisfy my partner sexually. If I was, I would not be impressed nor happy and appropriate action would be taken. If I wasn't, then I would need to find out his reasons before I assume anything or explode. Life is truly random and unpredictable! I could wake up again today doesn't guarantee me another waking up tomorrow! Hence, as much as I would like to slam down the hammer of anger so lightly, I would rather take a step back and give things a second chance. Perhaps, some forumites might find my response weird or unbelieveable. It's ok, it just my personal opinion and that's how I would handle situations nowadays, after having lost good friends to disease and illness so soon so unexpectedly! Life is really random! - Posted from rhpmobile
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NudesRus
10 years ago
I ran this past Mrs F to see what her response would be if I was offered a happy ending and her answer was very similar to Inspirit, she said it's only a hand job, relief at the end of a massage, didn't even really see it as a sexual act. So looking forward to my next massage. Ha ha
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RHP User
10 years ago
My inner feminine side.....Ever single bloody time I TRY to get in touch with her....SHE decides to give me a hand job....You know something???I am so fckn glad I am NOT REALLY flexible...Because I am 100% certainThe dirty bitch would give me a BLOW JOB if she could....
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RHP User
10 years ago
I'm amazed at the amount of posters who get themself all uppity over a simple hand job . Seriously , would you really want to stop your partner from a moment of pleasure . Its not a loving relationship , it's a human need and no more. Like Inspirit said. It's just a part of a sensual massage and nothing more..
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RHP User
10 years ago
A a guy in a relationship gives himself a happy ending, whilst watching porn, without said partners knowledge, IS that considered cheating? Same Same really....wouldn't one think. I like a good debate as you all well know. Happy Endings. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Some Thai massages incorporate a vaginal and breast massage..... Is that considered cheating too? Interesting little conundrum I put forward to the forum.... 👅 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Your argument makes no sense to me at all. Cheating or being unfaithful is a sexual act outside of your relationship. A hand job is not part of a massage or do you get a g-spot massage as part of your massage? Poor massage ladies after this thread. Although I do love my foot massages - they way they finger my toes. Heaven! LMAO I don't agree with this at all - but there are some women who do view masturbation or watching porn as cheating.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Try and justify it any way you like but it's still being unfaithful. Man up, and own up to it. :-)
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RHP User
10 years ago
I admit I am addicted to Thai massages places, doesn't help that there are 6 of them winging walking distance to my place. Often wondered - men visit sex workers and women get massages. Always enjoy some sensual touching. 😋
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RHP User
10 years ago
Can I ask the men saying that it's just part of the massage, it's just a release, I assume that you don't mind if it's a male or female masseuse? Is that right?
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RHP User
10 years ago
I guess it would come down to how well you know your other half, if you have any doubt at all about how they would react if you told them about the happy ending you received it would be classed as cheating. I don't really see a problem with it but that's just me and my Husband knows me well enough to know I wouldn't have a problem with it. Might be a good idea to talk to your other half about how they might feel. It's more about communication and knowing what your partner would or would not class as cheating. Good idea to know before you go and have one don't you think? I am guessing most women in monogamous relationships would consider it cheating or in the very least disrespectful. Just my thoughts. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
It's my opinion and not gospel. No one can tell another person what they should or shouldn't do and that includes me. If a man or woman , husband or wife take up with someone apart from their partner for a romantic fling , then yes , it's cheating. And I would presume more than a handjob would be involved. But if that same husband of wife visit some place for a relaxing massage which included relief without any romantic attachment . I don't see the connection . A hand job in a romantic attachment involving deeper feeling behind your partners back is emotional and damaging. That is cheating. A handjob as part of a professional massage without attachment is just that . That goes for both men and women. Are we still that insecure that we feel the need to collar someone for something that's part of human makeup ? So no , I don't need to justify anything. Maybe I have a more realistic approach to this than others , I don't know. I look at it for what it is.. Nothing else.
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NudesRus
10 years ago
I've never had a full body massage from a male so I don't think the situation would ever " arise " where it was a male giving me a happy ending. Nothing to do with being homophobic, that's not me but I prefer the touch of a female. In saying that we're off to Thailand in a few weeks on hols so you never know, you have to look twice at the pretty ones.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I've had a few massages in Thailand where it was offered but I refused. You don't have to take it , it's a choice . I don't condem it one way or another. More a storm in a teacup than anything..
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'cavey50' My inner feminine side.....Ever single bloody time I TRY to get in touch with her....SHE decides to give me a hand job....You know something???I am so fckn glad I am NOT REALLY flexible...Because I am 100% certainThe dirty bitch would give me a BLOW JOB if she could.... If time hadn't robbed me of my flexibility, my inner feminine would still be giving me BJ's and Mrs D would love to watch! As for the happy ending, I think its cheating if you can't tell your partner about it. Mr D
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RHP User
10 years ago
Give me a tantric full body massage any day over a regular massage with a happy ending, not all men want "relief", some want pleasure ;) Mr D
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RHP User
10 years ago
I am imaging all the hubbies telling their wives over dinner tonight to "Lighten the FU, it's just a hand job, she was a professional" haha. I have decided - I am going to have a lovely oil massage and a vigorous toe fucking tonight. 😇 (Ps: I don't think I really believe that this is standard practice in legit massage places)
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RHP User
10 years ago
I concur. Tantric is something I'd love to try someday.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'inspirit' A a guy in a relationship gives himself a happy ending, whilst watching porn, without said partners knowledge, IS that considered cheating? Same Same really....wouldn't one think. I like a good debate as you all well know. Happy Endings. - Posted from rhpmobile Yes, I think anything sexual when it involves a third person NOT your partner, could be construed as cheating. And yes that also (IMO) includes female sexual relief through massage if the partner is unaware. (If the partner is aware and accepting then no problem) IMO
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RHP User
10 years ago
Relief without romantic attachment? Wouldn't that include receiving a blow job from a pro you've paid? I'm sure it's reasonable for partners to think that would be crossing a boundary without prior discussion?
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NudesRus
10 years ago
Your so funny Single guy. Ha ha Also if you usually wank with your right hand and use your left hand, are you cheating on your right hand?
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RHP User
10 years ago
Candy - would it be OK if you went to a medical clinic and they had someone manually stimulate you to ejaculation? what level of professionalism from the massage providers would then make it OK? (are the people at rub and tug places qualified in massage?)
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RHP User
10 years ago
Do they have medical practices like that? Hmmm. I know vets sometimes have to jerk horses off - I am sure most men on RHP would be of comparable size so totally could happen. Lol So, I conclude it would be perfectly alright if you had no arms. 😋
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RHP User
10 years ago
If the "happy ending: for either the male or female was given by a same sex massuese, would that still be classed as "cheating". I've had an all in one massage by a female massuese in an Asian country. It was amazing and never before have I felt so relaxed. Was I cheating..... It didn't feel like sex gratification, it was just a sensual massage. Now I didn't know it was coming, but I did go with the flow. Would I do it again. Hell yeah. Were they qualified...dunno. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Its not really a sexual act. Its a massage. If he got his cock massaged and didn't cum? Does that make a difference? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
A sensual or full body massage was a regular thing for me years ago pre marriage. I personally see it as cheating, it was something that would never entered my mind inside the relationship I had with my then wife.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Why not go the whole way and have prostrate massage too. But hey, if the cock has a stiff neck by all means massage it. After all massages are basically to massage muscle not a flaccid cock. Erotic massages are by sex workers/masseuses I assume. I am bowing out of this one, I find the arguments for massaging a cock as part of an every day massage ridiculous tbh.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Simply does not make sense to condone a rub and tug IMHO. Self satisfaction involves.... Yourself.... So not cheating Rub and tug involves..... Someone other than your partner satisfying a sexual need without the partners consent.... Therefore in my view it's cheating. Same as if Mr LAL went to a work conference and I stumbled across him being given a hand job by a work college. Still a tug... Still without knowledge of partner... Still cheating. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
"...i tell you the truth, anyone who looks lustfully at a woman has committed adultery with her in his heart." I'm not here to convert anyone, but this was the standard I was brought up with. Is adultery and cheating 2 different things? Maybe that's a debate for another time, but on the standard I just wrote about, it's impossible to live up to, but does that make it ok then. It's almost impossible to go through life as a male and never once see a woman and think about how much you'd like to...<get to know>...her, so since that seems impossible we accept that move on. So my thoughts are, just because we accept that some things are just what they are in life and some partners are okay with that, does it still mean it's not cheating? Does it mean that because the partner accepts that what a woman/man does and is okay with it still not make it cheating? Is cheating and being ok with it two separate things?
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RHP User
10 years ago
LOVE your work ..
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RHP User
10 years ago
These are available too, here in Australia, by "trained professionals". Meeka did a while thread on it. I don't understand the mindset, that its cheating. That's me tho. Majority of you refer to it as a "sexual" act. I fail to understand that. Its a massage. That's all. Its a shame, in my view that religious antics have seriously fucked up minds. Jealousy is the root of all evil. Be it sexual, power or otherwise but that's a whole other story. Sorry to hijack the post OP. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Its just a massage. If my tits get a massage and coz they are very senses and I can orgasm from it, is that too a sexual act. Really 😕 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
But senses..... 😂 - Posted from rhpmobile
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NudesRus
10 years ago
No apology needed, I agree with everything you say. I think people are showing their insecurities. In certain circumstances a hand job can be sexual, like from a work college LAL, same as foot or breast massages can be very sexual but as a full body massage it is what it is. Thanks everyone for their input, it was a good debate which was never going to have a definitive answer but it didn't need one. Mrs F is happy for me to be happy so I'm happy. Happy days, Mr F
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RHP User
10 years ago
I think this is an interesting topic OP, good job (no pun intended) so "rubbing your cock = sexual = cheating" but what if you _really_ like foot massages. Does that become cheating if it is something that you derive sexual pleasure from? What if a rub and tug is just a convenient 'release' but it's more of a feeling like "ok, I'm refreshed and relaxed now" like after a massage, without any lustful nature to it? (I don't think this can be answered in any other way than as a case by case basis on boundaries determined by the individuals in the relationship)
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RHP User
10 years ago
While on holiday in London once. My loving wife thought it would be nice to book me in for a massage at a Thai massage centre. The massage was good but not what I normally expect when receiving a massage as most massages I get are for recovery from exercise reasons. Towards the end I was asked, "You like happy ending?" To which I replied, "Sure but I have no cash with me because my wife paid up front and has my wallet." She then propositioned me to give me a happy ending and leave my $10 sunnies (which must've looked far more expensive than they actually were) as security while I went and got cash and returned to pay her. I thought, "Why not!" I walked out of there never to return, immediately told my wife all about what had just happened and whilst she was a little surprised at first, we agreed it was nothing more than another form of massage and nothing that we haven't had the pleasure of watching someone else do to each other in the past and hopefully will again! The only thing is I didn't gain my wife's prior consent but I took a punt that she really wouldn't mind that much and I asked myself if the situation was reversed, how would I react? I'd find it a turn on that she enjoyed a massage as well as having her pussy pleasured! Then we laughed about it all afternoon! Mr Frendlycouple4u2.P.S. I did find the whole place and experience seedy but hey shit happens!
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RHP User
10 years ago
Why would someone need to worry about something like this? Ok, I accept to many of you it is cheating and that if someone is in a relationship where these expectations are understood then they should not cheat. But why would this be a problem for you? Where is the harm?
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RHP User
10 years ago
I'd consider it cheating if it goes against the boundaries you have set (ie only playing together, no open play etc). Its another woman getting you off for your pleasure. Plain and simple.
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RHP User
10 years ago
That could mean no massage for the Neck , Nipples, Feet , Inner arms , Back , Groin. Vagina , Penis , and Balls. So why would we want to do that .? Well, because we don't want anyone to experience anything that might feel good in fear they might enjoy themselves tooooo much ? Right ? What a load of BS. Too many things are referred as cheating . More like unaddressed insecurities if you ask me. If I became aroused while being massaged and my mind was full of all the what if's . It's not going to happen . With a open mind , who knows ? Inspirit, love your open mind on this subject , found myself agreeing with your comments. Candy , I can appreciate you have your opinion. Guess we have to agree to disagree. BTW. I wasn't always this liberal. There was a time when I had the same insecurities.
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RHP User
10 years ago
If you would consider your girl getting 'digitally manipulated' by a male masseus, cheating.... Then maybe you shouldn't be getting a happy ending. Unless.... Your gf is aware ... And happy for you to indulge. Having said that... I have spent years in Asia... And the act of a 'happy ending' is viewed as a merely physical act.... A minor extension to a massage... Which for all tense and purpose, is a stranger running thier hands all over your body to make you feel good. It's considered biological ... Not sexual, necessarily. So... What do I know? 😜 - Posted from rhpmobile
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Albert01
10 years ago
You are all here for the enjoyment and relief of sex It sounds like a catholic congregation above so bloody righteous - Posted from rhpmobile
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Albert01
10 years ago
You are all here for the enjoyment and relief of sex It sounds like a catholic congregation above so bloody righteous - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
What if you thought of your partner while you had your eyes closed and we're receiving that wristy?.... Yep would still be classed as cheating in my book of morals.... which is slightly tattered and torn 😥 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Koolgrey' These matters are so much simpler when your single.. Yes thats true - but it all can be just as simple if people are honest
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'ausmtv' "...i tell you the truth, anyone who looks lustfully at a woman has committed adultery with her in his heart." I'm not here to convert anyone, but this was the standard I was brought up with. Is adultery and cheating 2 different things? Maybe that's a debate for another time, but on the standard I just wrote about, it's impossible to live up to, but does that make it ok then. It's almost impossible to go through life as a male and never once see a woman and think about how much you'd like to...<get to know>...her, so since that seems impossible we accept that move on. So my thoughts are, just because we accept that some things are just what they are in life and some partners are okay with that, does it still mean it's not cheating? Does it mean that because the partner accepts that what a woman/man does and is okay with it still not make it cheating? Is cheating and being ok with it two separate things? My thoughts - and please tell me your thoughts on my thoughts - is that looking is a normal thing - it doesn't matter where you get your appetite as long as you eat at home. As for weather partners are okay with it or not - well I wont play with non singles - even swingers or "open relationship" guys - they might be fine with it and so may their partners but I don't agree with it personally - and the only thing I can control is what I participate in. I don't judge but don't have to join either.Kisses Claire I Dare
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RHP User
10 years ago
The married men's defensive comments are amusing. Get over it? No you get over it. Haha
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RHP User
10 years ago
For some couples it would be cheating and for others it would not. We all know which of the alternatives we fall in to. The first time that I told my wife I got a happy ending for an extra $20, her only concern was that if the masseuse's hand weren't clean, I could get an STI. She was surprised that it only cost $20. The irony is that although she could get herself a happy ending anywhere, anytime from any random guy without paying a cent, for her to pay a professional for one costs five times as much as what I pay. And yes, she has had several. If she got one from a friend or some local that I know it would be cheating big time. Same goes for me. - Posted from rhpmobile
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Liveenjoy69
10 years ago
I am totally amazed with some of the conservative comments. After all we are on a swinging site, where open mindedness is a prerequisite. We certainly don't have a problem for either party to have a happy ending at the end of a long oil massage provided it is done with the full knowledge and approval of the other.. How different is it from a foursome, a threesome or partner swopping . Lighten up, if we are all on this site surely were are not prudes?!
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RHP User
10 years ago
Yes, it's cheating. And yet, when I started a thread including a similar story about a year ago, about my then partner 'cheating' on me for having a 'rub and tug' with a hooker and not informing me about it until I found the texts in his phone, I was told 'it was JUST a handjob - get over it' and 'what did you expect?' etc. Funny how people's attitudes have suddenly changed in the space of a year. The really dumb thing is, if you're in a relationship with someone and they trust you enough to open up and tell you their intentions beforehand, then I think that says a lot about how close you actually are, and in that kind of scenario I would be much more likely to give my blessing and say 'yes honey, go off and enjoy yourself. Given that you've told me what you want to do, it IS just a handjob'. What makes it 'cheating' is the lying and deceit, when the female half remains completely unaware of what's taken place until after the event. Communicating your needs and wants honestly is paramount in any worthwhile relationship.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I think it's the best way to finish a massage for relaxation . I told my ex wife and she hated it, I wasn't to fussed though as it wasn't long before that I'd caught her cheating so lol... At the end of the day though all.men do it. No doubt I'll get the men reply and tell me I'm wrong but really after reading a lot of guys replies on here , they are only saying what they have to say to hopefully get someone's attention to possibly get a shag themselves . This site is full of fake blokes with vaginas. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'CandyDelicious' Do they have medical practices like that? Hmmm. I know vets sometimes have to jerk horses off - I am sure most men on RHP would be of comparable size so totally could happen. Lol So, I conclude it would be perfectly alright if you had no arms. 😋 They used to (circa 19th Century) to treat "Hysteria" in women. This apparently inspired the invention of a whole array of Dildos/Vibrators to aid in then legitimate medical practice. My, how times have changed! How funny's that? ("Hysterical?")
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RHP User
10 years ago
For me, it's more natural to just go with the flow and accept it as part of the massage. We put way too much importance on being "cheated" rather than just accepting what is. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'claireidareMy thoughts - and please tell me your thoughts on my thoughts - is that looking is a normal thing - it doesn't matter where you get your appetite as long as you eat at home. As for weather partners are okay with it or not - well I wont play with non singles - even swingers or "open relationship" guys - they might be fine with it and so may their partners but I don't agree with it personally - and the only thing I can control is what I participate in. I don't judge but don't have to join either.Kisses Claire I Dare My thoughts on your thoughts is that looking is a normal ingrained thing. But there's a difference to me in looking and thinking "she looks very nice, very lovely, she must have put a lot of effort into that" than looking and thinking "damn, I'd bend that over in a heartbeat...." I'm not saying I'm not a hypocrite either btw, I just think that most of society seems to think about the physical acts all the time as to where the line is, but rarely do we acknowledge that our actions come from somewhere else. Separate to the cheating thing, I think respect for humankind in general begins with the mind. I have much more deeper thoughts on that, but lets keep this place a nice happy one shall we :)
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