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Karma

May 22 2011

I dont know how many times I have read on these forums about Karma getting someone for what they have done or said. Now I am firmly of the opinion that what goes around comes around and whatever you give out you get back threefold. It amuses me to think of all these people out there in RHP land sitting back awaiting Karma for payback of all indiscretions done to them. Maybe the threat of Karma is like the old saying "Just you wait until your father gets home" and around the same era of "God will stike you down you heathen" What do the rest of you think? Now the latest Judgement Day hass been and gone and I am still here...are we all waiting for Karma to bite us on the arse? Or do we stand up and take responsibility for our own actions? Does Karma even exist?

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Hi Fionabee, I do believe in Karma if you do something nice for someone, something good will happen to you.On the otherhand if you do something wrong, then something not so nice may happen to you. Its something you cant toucl or see, it tends to be intuative. Judgement day was just a wank from some fellow who thought he knew it all. What goes around does come around its just somtimes you dont notice it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'meggiesgirl' Hi Fionabee, I do believe in Karma if you do something nice for someone, something good will happen to you.On the otherhand if you do something wrong, then something not so nice may happen to you. Its something you cant toucl or see, it tends to be intuative. Judgement day was just a wank from some fellow who thought he knew it all. What goes around does come around its just somtimes you dont notice it. So you only do nice things cause you EXPECT it to be repaid? Lol the Universe doesn't work that way! Also when you say "Karma will get them" .. you are in fact sending out negative energy that just comes back to YOU! What you might percieve as someone doing the wrong thing...they might see it as they are doing the right thing! Everyone is different that way! < My spin on Karma? It is how you treat yourself...it is how you feel about yourself and how you feel about your life! It is what you put out about yourself! If you are kind and loving of yourself...the world is your oyster and good things happen! If you have negative thoughts and feelings....then that is what you attract back! < Recently I have read another spin on Karma in a great book called "The 5 people you meet in heaven"..In this book he talks about a man's death and goes through the 5 people that he met on his passing...He felt their pain at times and one time he was confused as the man he met he never knew....but, when this elderly man was a young boy he kicked a ball out onto the road and ran out after it..a car that was approaching swerved to miss him and then about a mile up the road the driver had a heart attack and died and that was why he met him! < In another book I read earlier this year "Watching over us" It has a story in there of 3 boys in their late teens that got killed in a fiery car accident...These boys had had their "Karma" paid from a previous life when they served in the Vietnam War together and went out one night and were drunk and looking for "Gooks"...they found a family hiding in a car and taunted them and then fired bullets in the car until the car had burst into flames...killing 2 members of the family! The car in this lifetime that they swerved to miss..were 2 young people from the one family who were incidently unharmed! < The most important thing in life is to learn how to give out love, and let it come in - Morrie Schwartz! xFunlovingx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Hi fionabee. I smiled when I read your "wait until your father gets home" comment. I remember that one well! Funnily enough though it never bothered me as I was a "daddy's girl"! My take on karma is more of a positive one. I have been fortunate enough to meet some truly inspirational people who have had quite a profound affect on me. They have made me want to be a better person. I don't perform good deeds in the hope of a reward but do hope that my actions will influence other people to want to do better too. Don't get me wrong, I am by no means a saint! There is certainly room for improvement! Kindly karma to all x

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    No seriously, Have you even noticed that folk who seem to constantly be bouncing from one drama to the next often appear to behave in a less than caring/sharing way? What we put out on a daily basis is what we surround our lives with... x

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Fantastic words of wisdom from a great man......awesome book!!! < The most important thing in life is to learn how to give out love, and let it come in - Morrie Schwartz! xFunlovingx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    The belief is that, In this world nothing happens to a person that he/she does not for some reason or other deserve.In other words We ourselves are responsible for our own happiness and misery. If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism,determinism or predestination.If this were true, free will would be an absurdity.He or She who believes in Karma does not condemn even the most corrupt, for they, too, have their chance to reform themselves at any momentWell thats my understanding of Karma anyway

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    I discovered that if you keep a good attitude and take time to help people out occasionally then you get a lot of good stuff back.I have known bad stuff happen to people who deserved it but lets keep this post positive.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'xFunlovingx'So you only do nice things cause you EXPECT it to be repaid? Sorry, but I didn't read anywhere in her post about doing good things and EXPECTING it to be repaid. I am a firm believer that 'What you sow, you reap', however everyone gets their fair share of bad and good, wouldn't you all agree??

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    It seems as though I must be the only one that thinks "karma" is a bunch of bullshit. The whole theory isn't that far removed from religion and it's "laws/sins". The simple theory that "do right by others, others will do right by you..."Really??? Crap. It's a wonderful thought. But it doesn't work.You've got to wonder, how many pompous assholes cut other people down at work to get ahead. Not "play the game"...and where to they end up? A lot of the time, at the top. How many people do you know are liars...cheaters...people who will say and do whatever they want...whatever they need, to get ahead, feed their ego, or just generally get off? How many people do you know, that are popular, generally nice people out in public, but go home and beat the shit out of their spouse? And take a look around. Are these the homeless people you see on the street? Are these the no friends/no family people that live out where the buses don't run? Hmmm...Like I said, it's an excellent theory. In a fantasy world, it would be there. Maybe the problem is, that most of us, are just dreaming of living in this fantasy land. And maybe...just maybe, we should all start taking a bit more responsibility for ourselves and our own actions, instead of passing it on to some spiritual higher power to take care of...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    I used to but I changed my mind a few years ago. Because we have different views about good and bad and right and wrong I don't see how karma can be universal. We have different values based on our culture, our family, the society we live in, the countries and cultures we visit. There are some people who would believe all of us on RHP are immoral and would anticipate our karmas catching up with us. Do we believe we are wrong to be here? JMOPagan

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'KD7884' The simple theory that "do right by others, others will do right by you..." Often we see other who are continualy nice get treated like doormats and walked all over. There must be a stage whereby we just stop being a pushover in our endeavours to always treat others right. And maybe...just maybe, we should all start taking a bit more responsibility for ourselves and our own actions, instead of passing it on to some spiritual higher power to take care of... I do so agree. Maybe if a few more took responsibility for thier own actions, we would have less violence and less crime I do also think that what we give out we get back but I am not prepared to sit on my arse and wait for the "higher power" to get even for me.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Well as they say you get back whatever you give out 3 fold. So if you give love you get love in return. But its a bit hard giving sex out without someone to share with

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    My karma just ran over my dogma!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    I think what goes around comes around..if thats karma then so be it....will i get something nice now i agreed with you !!

  • Hanna_ybbn

    Hanna_ybbn

    15 years ago

    KD7884You raise some interesting points and theory's and I appreciate your perspective. WildPaganGypsyEnjoyed reading your contribution as well.Nudierudie2I think that Buddha nails it Han x

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    How am I supposed to love in a world full of push and shove?I don't believe in Karma. Considering I'm an atheist (albeit quite a human spritual one) this makes sense. I output good energy into the world because that's how I like to live my life and it's what makes me happy (I'm a pretty uncomplicated person me). I've also had my good nature taken advantage of more than once. If instant karma existed as has been spruiked here, I would have had a shit load of random good things happen to me.Actually now I think on it, I have had excellent random things happen to me. However it's been because I've put myself out there and been receptive to it. You have to be open and aware and grab those opportunities when they come past. Of course, I've missed out on a whole stack of opportunities due to really base feelings like fear (really trying to work through this). Once I can live a life without fear I don't think anything bad will ever happen to me."Bad" things only happen to me when I'm scared.So, I don't believe in karma. If someone hurts me or upsets me or wrongs me, I let it go. Worrying about it, or being angry about it, well then they win twice don't they? They got what they wanted and they also made me feel like shit. Screw that. Only I can make myself feel shit.Fark. When did I turn into such a hippy?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'fionabee'Often we see other who are continualy nice get treated like doormats and walked all over. There must be a stage whereby we just stop being a pushover in our endeavours to always treat others right. Ahhh well, you do need to be nice to yourself as well. Doormats often aren't nice to themselves at all!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'Polar_Bear_Girl'How am I supposed to love in a world full of push and shove?I don't believe in Karma. Considering I'm an atheist (albeit quite a human spritual one) this makes sense. I output good energy into the world because that's how I like to live my life and it's what makes me happy (I'm a pretty uncomplicated person me). I've also had my good nature taken advantage of more than once. If instant karma existed as has been spruiked here, I would have had a shit load of random good things happen to me.Actually now I think on it, I have had excellent random things happen to me. However it's been because I've put myself out there and been receptive to it. You have to be open and aware and grab those opportunities when they come past. Of course, I've missed out on a whole stack of opportunities due to really base feelings like fear (really trying to work through this). Once I can live a life without fear I don't think anything bad will ever happen to me."Bad" things only happen to me when I'm scared.So, I don't believe in karma. If someone hurts me or upsets me or wrongs me, I let it go. Worrying about it, or being angry about it, well then they win twice don't they? They got what they wanted and they also made me feel like shit. Screw that. Only I can make myself feel shit.Fark. When did I turn into such a hippy? I absolutely LOVE this post! xFunlovingx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'Taipan12'I think what goes around comes around..if thats karma then so be it....will i get something nice now i agreed with you !! But it also depends on what it is you would like?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Easy pleased..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    hmmm, if you accept that 'what you give out, you get back three-fold', then what of the expression (and belief of many) that 'good guys come last'. Certainly there is a lot of empirical evidence to back this up, just as there is plenty for karma. Perhaps the two cancel each other out and we all just trundle along on our merry way, trying to be good and nice, doing what we feel is right and putting our best foot forward.Just my thoughtsJakxxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'InAdditionTo' 'good guys come last'. Of course they do because they are busy making sure the lady cums first!

  • erotictouch4u

    erotictouch4u

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'fionabee' ...are we all waiting for Karma to bite us on the arse? If she is cute she could bite me anywhere ET xox

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Karma, oh how I wish it was true! That we would be judged on our lives and the payback (good or bad) would occur during that life. I can't say I believe it as too many great people get struck down with cancer, too many innocent people get caught up in wars and way too many arseholes rape the world for only their gain. Bit of a downer hey? I try and lead an ethical life and try to associate and promote others that do the same, not sure there's any greater good out of doing it but it's something within me. How's it make me feel? Well sometimes I feel good that I'm making choices that are not selfish but then other times I'm pissed as I don't get treated the same in return. All in all though, it seems like attracts like and I feel so privileged to count some very special people as my closest friends. This is the payback I guess :) I also actively discourage dealings with the arseholes of the world where at all possible.So there's no karma for me but I still do feel blessed :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'puppy'So there's no karma for me but I still do feel blessed :) Mr Pup - I think we should be friends :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Quoting 'puppy'Karma, oh how I wish it was true! That we would be judged on our lives and the payback (good or bad) would occur during that life. I can't say I believe it as too many great people get struck down with cancer, too many innocent people get caught up in wars and way too many arseholes rape the world for only their gain. Bit of a downer hey? I try and lead an ethical life and try to associate and promote others that do the same, not sure there's any greater good out of doing it but it's something within me. How's it make me feel? Well sometimes I feel good that I'm making choices that are not selfish but then other times I'm pissed as I don't get treated the same in return. All in all though, it seems like attracts like and I feel so privileged to count some very special people as my closest friends. This is the payback I guess :) I also actively discourage dealings with the arseholes of the world where at all possible. So there's no karma for me but I still do feel blessed :) Hey look at that. I agree entirely with your post. Except I, by necessity, have to deal with a few more arseholes than I would like. I dont know though, I tend to get back a fair bit of what I give out. Payback for me is sitting in front of the fire, a tiny scrap of humanity dressed all in black and with black and purple hair who crawls in off the streets for a hot meal and a shower every now and then. Love my kids, past, present and future.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    Aren't we already Polar???Fi it's ok for us to agree every now and then but we really shouldn't make a habit of it haha. Oh yes I get my fair share of arseholes too but then someone special will pop in and make my day too! As for fireplaces, I'm waiting for a supply of good wood as my current lot is crap :(

  • Skyn2Skin

    Skyn2Skin

    15 years ago

    Off the topic interjection. Mr" Pups", theres nothing wrong with your wood! :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    15 years ago

    and you KNOW both Pups lurve the Yogi's!!!