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MEN LIARS

July 01 2011

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Why do men lie why can't they just be honest. Have been seeing a man for 2 months next thing he has a few drinks spills his gutz. Tells me I'm special he wants me to be his princess etc etc. He seemed for real I could see that look in his eyes. I was shocked and not in so many words but I more or less told him it is just sex. So he ignored me for a while next thing his profile says he wants a relationship and is not interested in anyone who just wants sex. I finally got talking to him he says now its just sex. I did tell him I have feelings for him but I'm feeling this is all to soon. Three dates what's his problem and why do guys lie. Is alcohol really a truth serum or should I just leave this man alone. Why lie? Am I a bitch or does he have issues?

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    No alocohol isnt a truth syrum. If you want the truth (you cant handle the truth).. sorry that was a little voice in my head trying to get me to lie about it... if you want the truth... the best time to get the truth is just after your dude ejaculates.... vis vis.. around 45 seconds prior to him falling into a deep cum coma... so when you see his little tiny weeny peepers just stating to cwose a widdle bit... ask him anything you want in smoochy woochy tones so as not to alert him to your evil plan.HugsStalky

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    If you're honest with women and tell them you're only after one thing that's the last you'll see of them.Many guys learn this the hard way, women need to feel secure to let you sleep with them so men get used to lying to get what they want.The funny thing is many women don't mind being lied to, they will allow a white liar to sleep with them knowing it's short term but won't do the same with an honest guy.You're guy sounds confused though, maybe you're just not the right one and he needs to tell a few white lies not to hurt your feelings.... 'it's not you it's me'.s

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Some men just cant help themselves, they dig themselves deeper and deeper, so they finally end up in the shit, if they lie run a 1000 kilometres the otber way.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Haha... I opened this thread thinking the guy had told you he was hung like a horse, fit as someone who hasn't been feasting in a European paddock for 4 weeks and forgot to mention his ex-wife who still lives with him, and his 4 kids from 3 different marriages. . What you have (after 2 months / 3 dates?) is a guy who was getting sex (and decided you weren't right for him because he wanted more), then stopped getting sex (because you weren't right for him) and is now willing to say he just wants sex as the result of an overly heavy ball bag (ie - all of a sudden the concept of 'just sex' is better than 'no sex'). And of course just to throw more confusion into the mix... you say you now have feelings for him that you previously said you didn't? I wouldn't be surprised if the guy pops up in single men's business asking why women lie.... . ps - alcohol is not a truth serum. It is a depressant.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I can't see where he has lied....you embarrassed him when he opened up to you on how he feels! Then because of the embarrassment he disappears for a while! Then when you get back in contact he decided that he does just want sex (my guess is he is trying to save face from telling you his real feelings in the first place)! NOW because he disappeared you decide you have feelings for him! I think you are playing mind games and need to step back from this guy so that he can move onto someone that feels the same for him! Sorry, but you can't tell someone that you have feelings for them AFTER embarrassing them with rejection! xFunlovingx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Don't get this one either - just sounds like miscommunication on both parts. Pusscat xxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    So one bad experience and all men are liars, is that it? Sheesh! Makes me wonder why I bother if that's the prevailing attitude towards men.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Fact even after he had cum he still told me stuff. I did admit at one point I did have feelings and agreed to do some other fun activities. Also told him this is a tad to quick. Am moving on as I feel like a bitch but recieved a text from him not sure if I will respond. I feel he got hurt and now is taking everything he said back. Maybe we are as stupid as each other.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I am one of them people who have a built in lie detector. Once someone starts lieing to me the little alarm bells start ringing and puts me on guard. But human nature being what it is, I pretend to be fooled so not to expose thier escapade and embarrase them. I dont know why I do this. afterall, it's them who started the lieing.. what a vicious circle

  • erotictouch4u

    erotictouch4u

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'xFunlovingx' I can't see where he has lied....you embarrassed him when he opened up to you on how he feels! Then because of the embarrassment he disappears for a while! Then when you get back in contact he decided that he does just want sex (my guess is he is trying to save face from telling you his real feelings in the first place)! NOW because he disappeared you decide you have feelings for him! I think you are playing mind games and need to step back from this guy so that he can move onto someone that feels the same for him! Have to agree with you FL Quoting 'nutzey'... recieved a text from him not sure if I will respond. I feel he got hurt and now is taking everything he said back. Maybe we are as stupid as each other. Then txt him back and say you are willing to sit down and talk it through like adults with him if he is willing to be an adult about it all too.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Sounds a bit more like "friends with beneftis" rather than just sex. That can get a bit more complicated as yu See It Big...friends usually come with some sort of an emotional price tag no matter how dear or not so dear they may be. Keep It Simple...I think you did the right thing by talking, but may try talking about it first rather than having to go back and clean up after the fact. | Sounds like SIB KIS has gone out of the equation...and it's broken. It's up to you and the fellow involved as to whether you want to bother to fix it...but then you could end up with a bigger mess. Think this one might be one just to tuck into the back pocket... | ...and exit smiling while you still can.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' Sounds a bit more like "friends with beneftis" rather than just sex. That can get a bit more complicated as yu See It Big...friends usually come with some sort of an emotional price tag no matter how dear or not so dear they may be. Keep It Simple...I think you did the right thing by talking, but may try talking about it first rather than having to go back and clean up after the fact. | Sounds like SIB KIS has gone out of the equation...and it's broken. It's up to you and the fellow involved as to whether you want to bother to fix it...but then you could end up with a bigger mess. Think this one might be one just to tuck into the back pocket... | ...and exit smiling while you still can. With the sensible man above ... who unfortunately, has a habit of being right in these areas *eyeroll* . Sounds to me like miscommunication and too much face-saving instead of straight-talking. You may have had more useful responses if you hadn't have made the generalisation that men lie. Men who lie have usually been conditioned by women who omit. . Flirty x

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I'm with Flirty and CM on this one. It sounds more like 'not a lie' but he may have been saving face by not wanting to admit or seem like the 'only' one of you that wanted more. It's such a landmine this bloody emotional side, you know the one.....feelings getting in the way of good sex LOL Talk , talk , talk people, you could be letting something or someone good slip from your grasp all in the name of miscommunication.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    My chin just dropped and hit the desk...I think that's the first nice you have ever said to me, well in public anyway and needs to be recorded for posterity. | Quoting 'flirty_bi_fem' With the sensible man above ... who unfortunately, has a habit of being right in these areas *eyeroll* Ta-da and you win the prize! No ankling for you...but if you can find Meeka, she might be up (in the air) for a bit of fun... | ...and you can help too.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    My chin just dropped and hit the desk...I think that's the first nice you have ever said to me, well in public anyway and needs to be recorded for posterity. | Quoting 'flirty_bi_fem' With the sensible man above ... who unfortunately, has a habit of being right in these areas *eyeroll* Ta-da and you win the prize! No ankling for you...but if you can find Meeka, she might be up (in the air) for a bit of fun... | ...and you can help too.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' ...and exit smiling while you still can. ... Or Too Far Gone? . Sensible, intelligent, sharp, fine taste, knowledgable ... Sounds like someone wants a raise! Hehehehe

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Yeah you are all right I did tell him at the start a bit. Maybe if he had not been drinking I may of been willing to talk more at the time. Now I think its just to messy D_G_T you could be right we have so much in common but still I think the back pocket is the best place. Unless by some miracle we are amazing enough to put it in the past or talk about it. I'm leaving him be. I do have feelings for him but not enough and I don't feel comfortable with all these feelings this early. Pity though the sex was awesome.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    When I read the title (why do men lie) I was ready to jump in and state that it’s not just men that lie. People of every gender, race, religion etc lie. It’s an unfortunate human trait and when the motive is broken down to its basic human drive it can be usually linked to greed. However.... your friend didn’t lie. His feelings simply changed as they do. That’s also human nature. Sure he could have handled it better but there’s probably blame on both parts. I don’t know, I’m not Dr Phil however I'd say his pride is hurt and only time will heal that.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Wtf is moving too quick... honestly, you either like the guy or you don't, you try to make it happen or you don't! It really isn't that hard... Moving too quick to me is, i don't want you to be the only person i am seeing right now! You know, different cookie!!This is what guys mean when they say women play mind games! He tried to be honest with you, then you shoot him down, he says screw it why ruin a good thing, then you screw it up some more!! Alot of guys i know stay single breaking hearts for this exact reason...hate to sound rude but... Bro, if your reading this, stay away!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Lets not discriminate one gender, Women also lie.What you must consider that often when people are tellping porkies its a DEFENSE / ESCAPE MECHANISIAM. Sweet talk is very very easy to lure anyones attention. Its how the mind reacts to the words used. Some individuals can become emotionaly offixed to the * SWEET TALK * and are generaly those of whom have a VULNRABLE personality.Body language reading is something i'm a slight master with ;) If you are unsure the person in question genuinely has an attraction to you LOOK AT THE PUPILS. When we have extra serotonin our pupils EN LARGE. Of couse lighting may be a factor.Look how the palms are , if they are out toward you and you can see the whole palm then TRUST and HONESTY is being shown.The legs , legs must face you, the person is engaged and their attention is on YOU.Legs open .. GREAT SIGN!! A sign the person is SEXUALLY COMFORTABLE WITH YOU..Now, NEGATIVE BODY LANGUAGE : Hand across chest - OFF BOUNDSfeet pointing away - LACK OF INTERESTone leg crossed and arms behind neck and leant back - DIS HONEST TRUST IN Y.O.Ulegs closed - OFF BOUNDS.When someone is comfortable and relaxed the body LOSSENS :)NUTZEY - AM I A BITCH? Well hell no!! You wer born a female HUMAN not a DOG. You are putting far too much time in for someone whom you do not seem to TRUST?? Why not move along and enjoy the many many delicious and warm gentlmen on RHP? We are not in short suppuly ;)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    So lets get this straight, in 2 months you have three dates? so im assuming you've had sex twice (yes im giving you the benefit of the doubt). well my opinion is this, you are reading way too far into things and he has issues with women. Starting a new relationship requires not only attraction but more importantly communication..... long story short, sounds like you have neither of these and both need to go back to square one and start again (with other people). I actually find it amusing that a woman of 46 yrs of age is still confused about who and what she wants out of life and decides to ask a forum for an opinion on her situation.... maybe RHP is not for you. Good luck in your search for happiness :))

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'just1taste'Body language reading is something i'm a slight master with ;) If you are unsure the person in question genuinely has an attraction to you LOOK AT THE PUPILS. When we have extra serotonin our pupils EN LARGE. Of couse lighting may be a factor.BUT I HAVE ONE LAZY EYE and the other one is a GLASS EYE!Look how the palms are , if they are out toward you and you can see the whole palm then TRUST and HONESTY is being shown.WHAT IF I AM HOLDING the DOOR OPEN FOR YOU?The legs , legs must face you, the person is engaged and their attention is on YOU.Legs open .. GREAT SIGN!! A sign the person is SEXUALLY COMFORTABLE WITH YOU..IF ITS COLD OR I NEED TO GO TO THE TOILET>>> MY LEGS WILL LIKELY BE CLOSE TOGETHER JIGGLINGNow, NEGATIVE BODY LANGUAGE : Hand across chest - OFF BOUNDSITCHY FROM A BAD WAX JOBfeet pointing away - LACK OF INTERESTTHERE"S ONLY SO MUCH ROOM ON THE COUCH>>> I THINK IF I"M LEANING ALL OVER YOU WITH MY FEET POINTING AWAY IT DOESN'T MEAN I'M NOT INTERESTED.. SURELY!!@one leg crossed and arms behind neck and leant back - DIS HONEST TRUST IN Y.O.UTHAT COULD ALSO BE THE GIVE ME A BLOW JOB POSITION>legs closed - OFF BOUNDS.OR AN INDICATION OF COLD WEATHER When someone is comfortable and relaxed the body LOSSENS :)SO THAT"S THE SECRET! I"VE BEEN TRYING TO GET MINE TO LOSSEN FOR AGES>>>> SPECIAL DIET AND EVERYTHING!Oh well.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'stalky' SO THAT"S THE SECRET! I"VE BEEN TRYING TO GET MINE TO LOSSEN FOR AGES>>>> SPECIAL DIET AND EVERYTHING! Try All-Bran

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    The problem was after 3 dates you want a relationship mmmm didn't get that part. 3 dates you barely know someone and you start spilling your gutz. Yeah I had feelings for him but getting to know someone takes more than 3 dates . Then he takes it all back I just don't understand why complicate it . I do know what I want just don't get the inlove part after 3 dates. Yeah the body language was there. But I think I can't be bothered. Just found it all silly just wanted some opinions shit I got them.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    hehehehe

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I don't even know myself what I want tomorrow, so how could I expect someone else to figure me out in a few dates or a few months ? I have been trying to figure myself out my whole life! But then again I like surprises so I don't try to hard. lol. xx Meeka

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Dontcha just hate it when guys want to talk about FEELINGS.... Gawd, men are such girls sometimes. Meeka

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Fair dinkum guys......your skirts are all tucked up in ya undies . Nutzey, I would be more than a little unsettled if a man started the relationship talk after 3 dates too. Gawd it's not even long enough to find out all your good spots LOL and stuff keeping him around if he can't

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Guys with feelings are no different than any1 else. I can do friends with sx (the women cant) but if you put your heart qswell as yur dick into it you have love (to a higher degree than just lust). There are only 2 choises... go with it or back rigt off.. mn dont like to say it but we feel as much aswomen do...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    be honest, everyone liesno exceptions !Women tell as much b/s to men as next blokeGet to know one another first

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I've had a lot of experiences where I've heard the line, "I don't care what you do, you just need to be honest with me". The following information is stored onboard in the woman's memory system, to be unlocked and fired back at me at a time of their convenience.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    What and women dont lie? why is it always why do men lie? I know that there is more than one woman on this planet that has lied. So maybe we should say why do people lie instead of putting a gender on things Oh and here is a maybe just a maybe this man started to get feelings for you and wanted more than sex and when his now feelings that he communicated for you were not the same as yours maybe just maybe he retreated to lick his wounds and shut communications down mmmm is this a lie Agree three dates is a bit soon but at least he was willing to communicate his feelings even if it was with a bit of Dutch courage so is that really a lie?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I agree with a lot on here, sometimes its not really a lie, its a defence mechanism. If you have been hurt in the past, you put up this wall, afraid to speak your mind or talk about your feelings because you want to protect yourself from being hurt, and you also don't want to be the first one to open up. if you are honest from word go, its say for example, friends with benefits and see where it goes from there, its out in the open, no strings attached, well you are free to see other people. Be honest yourself as well, that helps, I have found being straight up from the word go is the best.Also, you are NOT responsible for someone elses feelings. You cannot force emotion you do not feel just to avoid hurting someone else. Never pretend to love someone or even say it if you do not feel it, it does hurt and can cause major headaches later on. Especially when you say it, don;t feel it, and when you are away from that other person you act accordingly, the other party finds out and well you have a nasty situation on your hands.Too many say "I love you" without meaning it, some use it as a means to an end, to get what they want, and they have little regard for the damage they do when they turn and end things and say those words, I never loved you anyway, or i love you but i am not in love with you(now thats the biggest cop out I know of), having said that, I don't think the original poster has issues or is a bitch, just honest. This man however, sounds like he will do anything to stay in her life, even to wanting what she wants. Nice, but not a good idea, because keeping him around, still talking etc, gives hope where there may not be any. best to cut ties now before maybe more hurt is caused, for the both of you, not just the man :)