F36
Male Contraception
July 02 2011
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RHP User
14 years ago
We are the ones that carry the babies and like it or not, if it all goes pearshaped, we are the ones left holding the baby. 99.98 %of the time. There are male contraceptives available, I have some in my shed. They are called emasculators and they come with pretty little green rubber rings.
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RHP User
14 years ago
yes, its a grand conspiracy to keep little women oppressed, in the kitchen.. and if we so choose....barefoot and pregnant.Alternately, its an incredibly huge market that pharmaceutical companies would love to tap but they haven't been able to develop a contraceptive pill that has passed through trials yet. But... which story is the truth, I just can't tell... the first one... well, maybe... perhaps the Masons and Illuminati are all busily bonking away, shooting their temporarily sterilised semen wherever they please... but then the second story.. well, those Pharma companies would surely love a companion drug for their blue and yellow pills... you could sell them in party packs!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Bloody good point, just last week I was sitting in the docs waiting room ( waiting for the cold ducks bill uurgggghh) and there was a poster right beside me about all the forms of contraception. Out of about 15 possibilities TWO were for the man, wait for it...... the condom and vasectomy WT heck yep all the rest were up to the woman, and our very own version of the vasectomy was not called a tubal ligation, the poster had Female sterilization.......OMG could they make it sound any more shit? Fuck it made me cranky !!! grrrr . Lucky I had my pap smear to cheer me back up....pfffft
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RHP User
14 years ago
The best male contraception is to ask him to do the dishes... xxx
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'BlackStilettoes' The best male contraception is to ask him to do the dishes... xxx LOL... That doesn't work around here! I agree though... they should hurry up and create something like the pill, but for men! Would work wonders in relationships where the woman has medical issues with various forms of contraceptives - like myself! Although, do you really think a man would remember to take his 'birth control' everyday? LOL...
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' We are the ones that carry the babies and like it or not, if it all goes pearshaped, we are the ones left holding the baby. 99.98 %of the time. then what about all those guys that get a girl pregnant and say that she tricked him- it would stop those the have multiple partners worrying that they might have sired several children- it's always the girls fault if the pill fails or the condom breaks- far easier to kill semen then it is to subdue an egg. Quoting 'D_G_T' Out of about 15 possibilities TWO were for the man, wait for it...... so far i have been through 6 of those forms in the last 18 months- what happens when i run out of options? do i just stop having sex or do i get myself 'sterilized'?
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RHP User
14 years ago
"Why should we be the ones stuck with the responsibility of preventing unwanted pregnancies,"Because as Fionabee says .. We are the ones carrying for the next 9 months .. and on to the next 18-20 years .. Would you really trust a guy to honestly take a contraceptive pill .DAILY and on the hour ... when they cant even keep their condoms in appropriate condition and supply ... . try those who keep them in thier wallet in theit back pocket, ... weeks on end - sitting on them ... it has been know to wear holes in them thru friction --- hence they are then ineffective... but they still put them on for show and tell .. or .. its been so long between bonks .. the condoms they have are actually 'out of date' and past their shelf life ...YES THEY DO HAVE AN EXPIRY DATE. or they turn up intending on having a full night of passion and ohhh dear .. he only bought 1-2 with him .. reason to be given .. well there arnt any little swimmers left after the first 2 blows .. so your safe and we can go bareback .. (screw the STI benifits) . The excuses and reasons are endless ... and having worked in a sexual health/ termination clinic for over 2 years .. there isnt one excuse I HAVENT heard .. AND AS FOR .. especially when guys declare they don't want to use condoms. .. TELL THEM .. IF ITS NOT ON .. ITS NOT ON .. AND SHOW THEM THE DOOR .. . i WOULD RECOMEND THAT YOU KEEP YOUR OWN SUPPLY OF CONDOMS .. apart from using them to cover your toys, it at least ensures that you are PROTECTING YOURSELF .. the major important factor in the encounter .. YOU .. If they declare they dont want to use condoms .. DITCH them and find somone who will ... And KAT ... at your age . this little RANT was entirely justified .. keep on ranting untill they get the message .. condoms are way cheeper than terminations and certainly less stressful ..
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RHP User
14 years ago
u girls have it easy...just need to toughen up and get on with it!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'a_little_katty' Quoting 'fionabee' We are the ones that carry the babies and like it or not, if it all goes pearshaped, we are the ones left holding the baby. 99.98 %of the time. then what about all those guys that get a girl pregnant and say that she tricked him- it would stop those the have multiple partners worrying that they might have sired several children- it's always the girls fault if the pill fails or the condom breaks- far easier to kill semen then it is to subdue an egg. I hate to be the one to burst your little bubble BUTT....The man does not "GET" the girls pregnant . There are two people here and if she does not take responsibility for her own well being she cannot blame the man. There are actually two people in this equation and unless it is a rape situation, not entirely the mans fault. If you dont want to get pregnant then take the necessary precautions. It is that easy. Also carry your own condoms, large, small and latex free....then there are no excuses. If the man does not want to wear one.....see you later Bud! Aussiepeaches I am beginning to think you are a stirer...
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RHP User
14 years ago
i am all for a condom except for a few problems- allergies to latex and the lubricates used on the latex free ones i still use them but they make me feel horrible and prevent being able to play for long periods of time if usedi know it takes two to get pregnant- but shouldn't it also mean that it should be both parties that need to provide appropriate contraception?not all people can use a condom so shouldn't there be another option for males?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Would you trust a guy who said he was on the pill? The bottom line is that for the woman, pregnancy physically means either: a) invasive surgery b) 9 months with a child growing inside or c) boththis is before the whole parenthood issue which is a seperate matter.For a guy, the immediate results of unwated/unplanned pregnancy are:a) Ahhh, maybe they'll be yelled at by the partner for getting her knocked up???Frankly I wouldn't trust any guys to look after my own reproductive system. There is a jab being tested in India that works as a male contraceptive. Unless the person taking it was my partner and we were in a long term monogamous relationship, I still probably wouldn't be happy trusting it. the consequences are much more serious for me than my partner.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Really guys? Suck it up and use them! Fortunately DNA testing has meant that if guys don't like to use condoms, or do the whole slip it off while fucking thing, if that results in pregnancy, and the mother for whatever reason, keeps it, then hello, pony up the child support. Surely that has to be a great incentive to use rubbers?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Yeah I heard there is a subdermal temporary male contraceptive in the pipelines too. I'd definitely get it if it were available, provided the side effects weren't as bad as when a female friend of mine tried Depo Provera. I agree that it is equally the man's responsibility. Pregnancy just wasn't an option for my partners so we always used at least two forms of contraception, the pill and condoms. Yes men, I used condoms every time I had sex with my girlfriends in monogomous relationships, even when they were on the pill. I really don't see the big deal.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' Aussiepeaches I am beginning to think you are a stirer... Im sure he is ......!!!!
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RHP User
14 years ago
How many Fathers are out there that are fathers that did not want to be at the time, that would have loved the choice to be tempory incapable of producing children? And also paying / bringing up children that are not theirs. Baby bounuses etc? Trusting a female to take her pill every day? Best both contribute to contraception and 100% in their own right, not just the female. Ladies there is two sides to your whinging. If males had the choices females had with birth control they would use it, the confirmation of this statement is male vesectomy is pretty much routine once the family is established. If the technology was there I believe men would use it, How many men take daily medication now?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'aussiepeaches' u girls have it easy...just need to toughen up and get on with it! Look who's New Best Friend is Ignorance...
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'slippery_halo' Yeah I heard there is a subdermal temporary male contraceptive in the pipelines too. I'd definitely get it if it were available, provided the side effects weren't as bad as when a female friend of mine tried Depo Provera. I agree that it is equally the man's responsibility. Pregnancy just wasn't an option for my partners so we always used at least two forms of contraception, the pill and condoms. Yes men, I used condoms every time I had sex with my girlfriends in monogomous relationships, even when they were on the pill. I really don't see the big deal. If my partner was going to use condoms all the time then no way I'd stay on the pill. Screw that hormonal shit!Also, there's vagisel (I think that's it) which is like a temporary vasectomy. A polymer is inject into vas deferens and prevents sperm getting past. Will last up to 10 years. When you want it referese it's just another injection into that spot.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Polar_Bear_Girl' Quoting 'slippery_halo' Yeah I heard there is a subdermal temporary male contraceptive in the pipelines too. I'd definitely get it if it were available, provided the side effects weren't as bad as when a female friend of mine tried Depo Provera. I agree that it is equally the man's responsibility. Pregnancy just wasn't an option for my partners so we always used at least two forms of contraception, the pill and condoms. Yes men, I used condoms every time I had sex with my girlfriends in monogomous relationships, even when they were on the pill. I really don't see the big deal. If my partner was going to use condoms all the time then no way I'd stay on the pill. Screw that hormonal shit!Also, there's vagisel (I think that's it) which is like a temporary vasectomy. A polymer is inject into vas deferens and prevents sperm getting past. Will last up to 10 years. When you want it referese it's just another injection into that spot. Both of my long term partners were on the pill anyway, for menstrual reasons and the most recent said something about being on it for acne? So all they had to do was take it at the same time each day instead of the slightly more haphazardly way they had been previously. I guess it would be different for a woman who didn't need to take it anyway, but hey, I don't trust just condoms and I don't trust just the pill. I don't really trust the combination completely but at least it's more trustworthy than one or the other! . Hmm... I'd consider the temporary thing you mentioned after carefully weighing up the risks. But I'd still use doms and with women who were on the pill. It'd just make the chances of pregnancy astronomical rather than highly unlikely. I've been willing to risk highly unlikely but I would prefer astronomical if at all possible.
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RHP User
14 years ago
In answer to your question Katty, the reason scientists have struggled to develop an effective form of male contraception is not because "they" think contraception should only be a female's responsibility. In short, they've battled to find a way to "block" the male's sperm from seeking out progesterone, one hormone required to fertilise a female's egg. Trials are under way to see how the whole male injection thing goes, but it's resulting in symptoms of depression, moodiness and loss of sex drive, amongst others. Experiments are currently taking place with a male pill that removes a vital protein in male sperm required to fertilise an egg. So the sperm will still make it to the egg but will be unable to fertilise. And no side effects either. It's still a few years away but is resulting in a greater understanding of contraception and also infertility. I wholeheartedly agree with PBG though, in that contraception is my accepted personal responsibility. The alternative would impact me far more than the male and I would prefer to trust me rather than him when all is said and done. So for me, I am happy to shoulder the "burden" of being responsible for preventing unwanted pregnancies. I am not burdened by "guys who declare they won't use condoms" - again, because I choose not to be! Quoting 'a_little_katty' not all people can use a condom so shouldn't there be another option for males? I'm not tackling this one, although I'd imagine that to be quite a pain in the arse. I have a pretty strong opinion on condoms serving to do more than just protect me (and him) from unwanted pregnancy. With there being so many female contraceptive choices available, I still wouldn't dream of having unprotected sex. Period. I have no idea what to suggest for you being allergic to condoms ... I think at your age, sterilisation might be a little radical a choice to make just to facilitate an inconvenient sex life.. . Flirty x
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'D_G_T' yep all the rest were up to the woman, and our very own version of the vasectomy was not called a tubal ligation, the poster had Female sterilization.......OMG could they make it sound any more shit? I guess 'spaying' didn't make it past the marketing team . . This whole contraception and STI thing is a real nuisance. If I had been consulted the whole reproduction thing would be an 'opt in' type process, where you are infertile until you flick some sort of switch (and the switch should have some sort of safety cover so you don't accidentally bump it)... . And whoever thought that rubbing your naughty bits together should be connected to the threat that you will end up with some form of horrible disease!! I'd be much more comfortable if shaking hands with someone required you to put on rubber gloves, but you could stroke naughty bits together the same way people shake hands now...
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RHP User
14 years ago
No , it doesn't quite have the same ring to it hey JG? what about something along the lines of barren-essing? thats catchy or NMBing.......(no mooooore babies) straight to the point lol
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RHP User
14 years ago
Katty, sucks to hear about your allergy. I realise this topic is about a man's responsibility for contraception and with female condoms that's the man abdicating on even that most simple thing. But if you're allergic to latex and some of the lubes on the non-latex ones, Katty, maybe the lube on the non-latex female condom is better? I just bought 3 from condomcountry.com.au, the only place I've really seen them available, ditto for dams. I don't have a playmate to try them out with currently, haha, but I'll get back to you. Anyway, maybe that'd be less irritating for you, in such a sensitive area? Worth a shot.
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RHP User
14 years ago
The best male contraception is thinking with the little brain (you know, the one sitting above the neck?), when my little brother first started shagging his girlfriend i told him(because my parents weren't about to have "the chat") "never trust a woman with contraception, they lie. Think with brain and not your dick and take responsibility for your own sperm." He later told me that i scared the crap out of him and he's now 34 and still remembers that conversation,but now that i want them i STILL don't have any little nieces and nephews!!!!! Worked a little too well i think.
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RHP User
14 years ago
there have been quite a few points of views for both sides of the topic and i love the input.JUSTENOUGH- you have a valid point that its not just about responsibility but giving men a choice- i do know a few males that have unfortunately gotten a girl pregnant and had to become parents against their wishes because she has decided to keep it- society goes on about how it is a woman's body and she has the right too choose- but what about the man that has to pay child support for the next 18 years even though he said he didn't want her to go through with it?Quoting 'JustEnough' How many Fathers are out there that are fathers that did not want to be at the time, that would have loved the choice to be tempory incapable of producing children? And also paying / bringing up children that are not theirs. Baby bounuses etc?trust that i would never leave it just up to a complete stranger to manage birth control- but a serious relationship maybe they would like the choice what with the adverse effects the some contraceptives have on our bodies? I'm whole heartedly with you FOREVERLOVE being one of those people tooQuoting 'foreverlove7985' Would work wonders in relationships where the woman has medical issues with various forms of contraceptives - like myself! you will have to tell me the outcome of them SLIPPERY :) its not really about the responsibility but how everything seems to be designed for women when men have a far hardier body and less finicky hormones
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deltoid
14 years ago
A vasectomy, had one in my mid 30s and never regretted it
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'a_little_katty'you will have to tell me the outcome of them SLIPPERY :) its not really about the responsibility but how everything seems to be designed for women when men have a far hardier body and less finicky hormones Okay, I'll try to remember to let you in on the results. I need to find a test subject first though!
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RHP User
14 years ago
What's all the fuss about...a little higher education would do the trick for chrissake. Hard to make babies when you are out colder than a dead fish at the Vic market on a Sunday afternoon. | Just go back to Uni and become a Chartered Account. Birth control is simple after that, just a matter or those three little word... | "Honey...I'm home".
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'deltoid' A vasectomy, had one in my mid 30s and never regretted it a good idea but i want kids in the future- but something i will definitely be looking at once i have themwas it a permanent or reversible?- just encase you decide to reproduce when you are in your 60' with some hot 30 year old Quoting 'slippery_halo'Okay, I'll try to remember to let you in on the results. I need to find a test subject first though! i'm sure someone will be willing to help if you say it is for a worthy cause
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'a_little_katty' I'm whole heartedly with you FOREVERLOVE being one of those people too Quoting 'foreverlove7985' Would work wonders in relationships where the woman has medical issues with various forms of contraceptives - like myself! I have been doing some searching, and have found an organic natural lube... but that doesn't really help when it comes to the latex/non-latex condoms... What are your symptoms with them?? I feel like I'm on fire (and not in a good way either!) and end up inflamed and in alot of pain... Same goes for any toys that we buy... some are fine, others have the same effect as the condoms and lube. I currently have the IUD in, but have had so many complications with it (it was the only thing that the doctors could suggest for me... besides getting my tubes tied - I have finished having children but apparantly i'm not a suitable candidate because of my age??)... I can't take the pill, can't have the implant, can't have the needle... Personally, I think that the 'male pill' or something that the man can take would be good for those in long term relationships, and where the woman has medical issues with contraceptives... I certainly wouldn't trust a random male with contraception. I really hope that you find something that works for you Katty - it's a frustrating journey you are on! (MRS)
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RHP User
14 years ago
Yeah, I've heard of the sub-dermal contraseptive for men, but with most treatments that have been tested to date is that to reduce a man's production of sperm, it requires reducing testosterone levels; and I'm sure you can work out the problem witht that is there will be less reason for contraception as he'll have reduced his urges and the ability tho get it up. I looked into vasectomy a few years ago, but was told by my GP that as I haven't had kids yet, and was a fairly young age that I would be required to speak to a therapist over a 3-6 month period to see if my choice was considered..WTF?! In the end, I just use condoms, and if the girl I'm with doesn't want me to wear them, she needs to be on contraception. We all make decisions in this life, and we should be prepared to deal with the consequences, good or otherwise, of them
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RHP User
14 years ago
If it is a significant other...you can have a reversible or "conduit pipe" installed if you are male...but at that price, it better be worth it! They are generally made of a very precious metal. |
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RHP User
14 years ago
Yeah, I've heard of the sub-dermal contraseptive for men, but with most treatments that have been tested to date is that to reduce a man's production of sperm, it requires reducing testosterone levels; and I'm sure you can work out the problem witht that is there will be less reason for contraception as he'll have reduced his urges and the ability tho get it up. I looked into vasectomy a few years ago, but was told by my GP that as I haven't had kids yet, and was a fairly young age that I would be required to speak to a therapist over a 3-6 month period to see if my choice was considered..WTF?! In the end, I just use condoms, and if the girl I'm with doesn't want me to wear them, she needs to be on contraception. We all make decisions in this life, and we should be prepared to deal with the consequences, good or otherwise, of them
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Chef_78' I looked into vasectomy a few years ago, but was told by my GP that as I haven't had kids yet, and was a fairly young age that I would be required to speak to a therapist over a 3-6 month period to see if my choice was considered..WTF?! No... not arse to mouth you sickos... Atm... Sperm bank. Can't you pop some of your finest work into a test tube and freeze them for later, and then have a vasectomy? I don't know, I have had a bad run with refrigerating things, but that would seem like a fairly good option - no accidental kiddies you have to hide from and on the off chance you did want kids later in life, you pop down to the lab, thaw or microwave or whatever you do and presto. No?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'foreverlove7985' I have been doing some searching, and have found an organic natural lube... you will have to give me the name of it but that doesn't really help when it comes to the latex/non-latex condoms... What are your symptoms with them?? I feel like I'm on fire (and not in a good way either!) and end up inflamed and in alot of pain... burning, swelling, going red- can also result in vomiting and fainting (only if used for more then an hour) Same goes for any toys that we buy... some are fine, others have the same effect as the condoms and lube. I currently have the IUD in, but have had so many complications with it (it was the only thing that the doctors could suggest for me... besides getting my tubes tied - I have finished having children but apparantly i'm not a suitable candidate because of my age??)... I can't take the pill, can't have the implant, can't have the needle...can't take anything with oestrogen so that rules out the pill, the nu-ring and shots - nothing with latex means condoms and again the nu-ring- had the IUD but had to have it removed after it grew into the side of my uterus- and am now on the second last option (before sterilization) the implanon (still bloodied and bruised from it)- being monitored weekly now that i have it but hopefully i can get this one to stay *fingers crossed* Personally, I think that the 'male pill' or something that the man can take would be good for those in long term relationships, and where the woman has medical issues with contraceptives... I certainly wouldn't trust a random male with contraception. I really hope that you find something that works for you Katty - it's a frustrating journey you are on! (MRS) Quoting 'Jean_Girard'No... not arse to mouth you sickos... Atm... Sperm bank. Can't you pop some of your finest work into a test tube and freeze them for later, and then have a vasectomy? have you seen the prices of those things??? so expensive and you can only store them for 10 years- but it might be better then having the child support agencies after you
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RHP User
14 years ago
"Infertile and irreversable"! No thanks. I much prefer potentially fertile and plenty reversable. That's why I haven't gone putting sand from Maralinga down my jocks.
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RHP User
14 years ago
The majority of the scientists that developed the pill were male and it is still a male dominated field although the situation has improved drastically. Pharmaceutical companies tend to put their research resources into drugs that will bring the best financial returns and contraception isn't one of them.Until we have a large pharmaceutical firm headed by a sexually active female CEO, male contraception will remain low on the list of priorities.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'MistressT'Until we have a large pharmaceutical firm headed by a sexually active female CEO, male contraception will remain low on the list of priorities. would you like to start one up of us MistressT? do one would question how you do your research
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'MistressT'The majority of the scientists that developed the pill were male and it is still a male dominated field although the situation has improved drastically. Pharmaceutical companies tend to put their research resources into drugs that will bring the best financial returns and contraception isn't one of them. Until we have a large pharmaceutical firm headed by a sexually active female CEO, male contraception will remain low on the list of priorities. This would have to be the biggest crock. Although yes, the 3 doctors who developed the pill were men - that's because at the time the rhythm method remained popular and the women were too busy popping out kiddies to work. But to claim there is a conspiracy among men and pharma companies to keep women on the pill is ridiculous. . I am yet to see any big company put an individual male CEO's ideals (in this case 'keeping contraception the female's responsibility') ahead of making a profit. At the moment when they show a pretty pie graph in a long boring powerpoint presentation no matter how creatively they manipulate the figures, they will never have a market penetration better than 50% (yep the female half), because unless they happen to have shares in a rubber plantation or scissor company, they can only provide a contraceptive to that half of the population. . The first company to provide a male contraceptive that doesn't result in us becoming flaccid, warm and fuzzy, Justin Bieber listening, testosterone deprived shadows of our former selves will be able to provide a contraceptive to both sexes. Profit and sales potential doubles - how many men are there in the world?, as do bragging rights (which are far more important to a male CEO than ensuring women continue to take responsibility for contraception and cooking.) . Although I do kinda like the idea of a sexually active female pharmaceutical company CEO, you know... in a lab coat, short skirt and glasses, with her hair tied up in a bob, until she closes the door behind me and releases her locks to let them cascade down over her breasts. I think I have a dvd like that somewhere actually.....
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'a_little_katty' . burning, swelling, going red- can also result in vomiting and fainting (only if used for more then an hour)I have had girls do this during sex, at the time I just figured they weren't that into me. Now I will blame latex allergies and feel much better about myself.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Yeah - trouble is, as has been highlighted here already - if it goes pearshaped, the female is left carrying the baby. At least if you forget the pill (as a female) and you fall pregnant, you have yourself to blame. But if you rely on others to ensure that you personally as a female do not fall pregnant - then that is like playing with a loaded gun.... excuse the pun!
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RHP User
14 years ago
We are happily married and enjoy a fantastic sex life and yep have kids, we decided after 3 attempts of contraception, hence the 3 youngest kids!, the pill, implanon and mirena. (check spelling)didnt work and the last was an IUD! that other than condoms we had no options, so we also decided that was enough kids for us!!, the snip here we come!, i went in at 12 noon was back at work, and yes working on cars by 4 that afternoon and didn't miss a days work, 4 hrs lads and i was goin again, gave it a run the next day, tarped up of course!, and i was fine... i even got a nice little scar out of it!!, so all i got to say is i give it to the girls, 9 months or 4 hours, takes most ladies longer to just give birth, is much much more painful and then 6 weeks or so to recover, and not unwanted but unplanned pregnancy is all over for us.. HARDEN THE FUCK UP LADS, IF YOU DONT WANT TO USE A CONDOM, DO SOMETHING ACTIVE ABOUT IT... 4 HOURS IT TOOK ME, and back to work, via KFC off course!!
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RHP User
14 years ago
MATE I HAVE HAD 3 TUBES FROZEN IT COST ME ABOUT $250 FOR THE 1ST YEAR AND 130 FOR EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT.... NOT EXPENSIVE AT ALL. Quoting 'Jean_Girard' Quoting 'Chef_78' I looked into vasectomy a few years ago, but was told by my GP that as I haven't had kids yet, and was a fairly young age that I would be required to speak to a therapist over a 3-6 month period to see if my choice was considered..WTF?! No... not arse to mouth you sickos... Atm... Sperm bank. Can't you pop some of your finest work into a test tube and freeze them for later, and then have a vasectomy? I don't know, I have had a bad run with refrigerating things, but that would seem like a fairly good option - no accidental kiddies you have to hide from and on the off chance you did want kids later in life, you pop down to the lab, thaw or microwave or whatever you do and presto. No?
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RHP User
14 years ago
VASECTOMIES could be a thing of the past thanks to a remote-controlled implant that can stop the flow of sperm. The valve-like device can be opened and shut at the press of a button, using the same technology that locks a car using a key fob.Scientists who invented the implant say it could be used as a form of male contraception.Men who change their minds about having children would then simply point the remote handset at their testicles and press a button to open up the valve.The procedure usually involves making two small cuts near each testicle and cutting the vas deferens, the tubes that carry sperm. A small section of each tube is removed and the two ends sealed, either by tying a knot in them or heating them up with a probe.The procedure is carried out with a local anesthetic and the dis solvable stitches usually disappear within a week. Reversal involves sewing the two cut ends back together. But it only works in around 50 per cent of cases, often because scarring where the cuts were made mean sperm cannot get through.Research also suggests vasectomies leave many men with abnormalities in their sperm that could dramatically reduce the chances of fathering a child.The remote-controlled implant, which is still at the very early stages of testing, could be a much more attractive alternative.It is made from silicone-based materials, which the body's defense mechanisms usually recognize as friendly, so reducing the risk of reaction or infection.As it is no larger than a grain of rice, it can be inserted into each sperm- carrying tube using a needle.Professor Derek Abbott, who heads the research team at the University of Adelaide, said the idea is that the valve remains shut most of the time and acts as a contraceptive barrier.A man would then use the handset, or fob, to open it around the time of having sex if he and his partner wanted to conceive.Once the handset is pressed, it sends a coded radio signal through the skin to the implant, which contains a tiny antenna. The antenna picks up the signal and converts it into sound waves that "ripple" through the valve.Since the valve itself is soft and flexible, the sound waves make it flap open - allowing sperm to pass through. As with cars, each device would have its own unique code so it could not be opened by anyone else.mmmmm maybe this article was made on 1/4 what do you thinkgreat idea if it is so hey
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Jean_Girard' This would have to be the biggest crock. Although yes, the 3 doctors who developed the pill were men - that's because at the time the rhythm method remained popular and the women were too busy popping out kiddies to work. But to claim there is a conspiracy among men and pharma companies to keep women on the pill is ridiculous. . I am yet to see any big company put an individual male CEO's ideals (in this case 'keeping contraception the female's responsibility') ahead of making a profit. At the moment when they show a pretty pie graph in a long boring powerpoint presentation no matter how creatively they manipulate the figures, they will never have a market penetration better than 50% (yep the female half), because unless they happen to have shares in a rubber plantation or scissor company, they can only provide a contraceptive to that half of the population. . The first company to provide a male contraceptive that doesn't result in us becoming flaccid, warm and fuzzy, Justin Bieber listening, testosterone deprived shadows of our former selves will be able to provide a contraceptive to both sexes. Profit and sales potential doubles - how many men are there in the world?, as do bragging rights (which are far more important to a male CEO than ensuring women continue to take responsibility for contraception and cooking.) . Although I do kinda like the idea of a sexually active female pharmaceutical company CEO, you know... in a lab coat, short skirt and glasses, with her hair tied up in a bob, until she closes the door behind me and releases her locks to let them cascade down over her breasts. I think I have a dvd like that somewhere actually..... I never said it was a conspiracy to keep women on the pill. I merely pointed out that as it is a male dominated field it will probably not be made a priority until the men's liberation marches kick off in 2015. Men will demonstrate to demand equal rights and burn their jock straps but unlike their female counterparts of the 1960's and 70's they will not demand the contraceptive pill. Many men still think that birth control is the women's responsibility and will continue to do so until they manage to put a male contraceptive into a bottle that looks and tastes like a beer.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Male Contraceptives = Condoms or Vasectomy Women's Contraceptives = Pill, Tubal Ligation, Dutch Cap & Spermicide, IUD, Implants, Hormonal Rings, Temperature Method ... I'm a dead-pan, sexless creature when I'm taking the pill ... but when I'm running on the real hormones oh boy!!! So if he says no to a condom then it can't happen ... he will miss out on a woman not 'dampened' by drugs! ... What's more ... Gone are the days when men could get someone pregnant and run. My sons don't have a choice whether that lady has their baby or not but they will have to pay anyway ... I'm just reminding them at every opportunity that it's the only form of contraception that they have control over. If she misses that pill what can they do about it later?!?!?! 18 years of maintenance payments that they can't say no to! Guys it could be very expensive not to take responsibility for where your seed ends up! And Gals if he says no he's not worth it (especially if it's a casual play)! We can winge and bitch all we like about the inequalities but I bet the gals can get a root much easier than the guys!!! LOL xxx
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RHP User
14 years ago
well I had the big V done.... and tested = pass.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I personally would love for the male pill to be released, one has been made and gone through trials, not released yes, I would happily take the male pill, sign me up
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RHP User
14 years ago
Hi There All,To those who do not know, for the past 15 years or so...Medical Scientists have been dabbling and attempting to provide the male species a contraceptive pill..But unfortunately with each clinical trial, their just has been one too many failures and negative set backs.Though I do know that possibly a male mini contraceptive pill may just be on the market in the next 5 years...It just all depends on the latest clinical trial that is currently underway in Europe, at the moment...So at the end of the day...Unfortunately women either utilise the pill or demand that condoms be used....And if people are not aware at the moment, their is a huge rise of acquired STI's in Australia , a huge spiral jump of nearly 25% in the past 3 years... Something to think about people........Mrs silver_tulip
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Beauheart'VASECTOMIES could be a thing of the past thanks to a remote-controlled implant that can stop the flow of sperm. The valve-like device can be opened and shut at the press of a button, using the same technology that locks a car using a key fob. Scientists who invented the implant say it could be used as a form of male contraception. Men who change their minds about having children would then simply point the remote handset at their testicles and press a button to open up the valve. great idea if it is so hey No way - there are too many stories you hear about car doors unlocking by accident or when you sit down on your keyring. In fact if I press one of the buttons on my stereo remote it changes channel on the tv... And how do you know whether the valve is open or closed, is there a little led light or something? I'm going to stick to the pill. :p
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Jean_Girard' Quoting 'Beauheart'VASECTOMIES could be a thing of the past thanks to a remote-controlled implant that can stop the flow of sperm. The valve-like device can be opened and shut at the press of a button, using the same technology that locks a car using a key fob. Scientists who invented the implant say it could be used as a form of male contraception. Men who change their minds about having children would then simply point the remote handset at their testicles and press a button to open up the valve. great idea if it is so hey No way - there are too many stories you hear about car doors unlocking by accident or when you sit down on your keyring. In fact if I press one of the buttons on my stereo remote it changes channel on the tv... And how do you know whether the valve is open or closed, is there a little led light or something? I'm going to stick to the pill. :p Plus I'd hate for my boot to open unexpectedly... that would be embarrassing!HugsS
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RHP User
14 years ago
Sounds to sci-fi to me as well.The actual article was published in feb 2008 by syd morning herald and we have all heard the stories about how well researched things are from time to time.As reading it myself things popped into my mind like who controls the remote? the misses, or what if the kids play with the remote with out your knowledge? the legal requirements if doctors retain control and then service checks. Maybe it would require a visit to have it turned off when planning for family occurs. Just think if the controllor is like a wond with short transmit range of only 3 - 4 inches and all it takes is a Doctor to wave it in front of your nuts ( move over Balthazar and Harry Potter hear comes THE DOCTOR)..... then last but not least how long would the batteries last and how they get changed
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Jean_Girard' Quoting 'Beauheart'VASECTOMIES could be a thing of the past thanks to a remote-controlled implant that can stop the flow of sperm. The valve-like device can be opened and shut at the press of a button, using the same technology that locks a car using a key fob. Scientists who invented the implant say it could be used as a form of male contraception. Men who change their minds about having children would then simply point the remote handset at their testicles and press a button to open up the valve. great idea if it is so hey No way - there are too many stories you hear about car doors unlocking by accident or when you sit down on your keyring. In fact if I press one of the buttons on my stereo remote it changes channel on the tv... And how do you know whether the valve is open or closed, is there a little led light or something? I'm going to stick to the pill. :p Forget all that, when can you ever find the remote when you really need it - a big fail for that idea!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Ejaculation means orgasm. No sperm flow....no ejaculation.... No orgasm??????
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' Ejaculation means orgasm. No sperm flow....no ejaculation.... No orgasm?????? I used to think that when I was a young teen and wrote a humourous song about it that I later found out to be completely inaccurate. As far as I know Fionabee, ejaculation generally occurs at orgasm, but they can happen separately. For instance when trying "edging" I've began ejaculation before having an orgasm a couple of times - which is just one of the reasons why the coitus interruptis/pull-out method of contraception is so unreliable. And at the other end of the spectrum when I was trying to see how many times in one afternoon I could possibly orgasm I had a few where there was the sensation of ejaculation (rapid muscle contractions) but no more actual fluid - I'd run out. So orgasm can happen without physical ejaculation and ejaculation can happen without orgasm. It's just that the overwhelming majority of the time they're simultaneous. . I'm no doctor and I've done very little research into it but from what I understand semen is made up of different "ingredients" that are produced in different areas of the testes. A vascetomy stops there being sperm present but leaves the other parts to still do their thing. So a man who's had a vascetomy should still ejaculate the proteins and enzymes that make up semen sans the part that can cause pregnancy. And it's worth noting that just because it can't cause pregnancy, there can still be STIs transmitted in the non-sperm part of semen. . I think only monks would get a vascetomy if it stopped orgasm from happening as well.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'celebree'try those who keep them in thier wallet in theit back pocket, ... weeks on end - sitting on them ... it has been know to wear holes in them thru friction --- hence they are then ineffective... but they still put them on for show and tell .. or .. its been so long between bonks .. the condoms they have are actually 'out of date' and past their shelf life ...YES THEY DO HAVE AN EXPIRY DATE.An expiry date? Talk about pressure I don't need
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QLDtwo4fun
14 years ago
Once your past wanting kids, try a vasectomy. Quick, permenant, everything still works and tastes the same. No pain for me. Low pain for him. Ill lend you my mans to try if you like.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Ahh yes, when my wife and I had our 3rd child, which we knew was to be born by ceasarian section, We asked the Ob if during the birth, could he do a Tubal ligation at the same time. and the answer, No problem, it only adds about 7 minutes to the operation.. and after that, I went and had the snip as well , as we both liked to swing. all worked out just fine.
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