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Marriage equality

June 21 2015

After going to the Canberra marriage equality rally today and showing my support I just wanted to put it out there in RHP land that if you support marriage equality then let's keep doing the little things that all add up to keeping the issue in the political spotlight. I have been pretty anti liberal and very much anti Abbott in this whole process with the view that if the Libs allow a conscience vote they will say "it's our party (Libs) that are responsible for being this to the people" where as everyone knows it has mostly been the greens and lately labour that have done the hard work with Some Libs wanting laws against queers if they could get it through parliament and that really pissed me off. However after today I have changed my stance and now realise that the LGBT community just want it done by whatever means is needed so they can not spend another moment longer in discrimination and people not politics is not the real issue here. Also for those who have come out to family or friends have you had really bad reactions initially to coming out, has the turn around in general in public perception been the catalyst to greater acceptance or having the confidence to say now is the time to come out for me. Thoughts everyone W. - Posted from rhpmobile

Comments

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I generally I don't get involved in politics, but it seems like a bid to gain voters, why didn't they just introduce this bill when labour was in power? I don't think much of either party and I want to see marriage equality sooner rather than later, but I like to do a lot of research before I make a final decision, and wont just back any party without knocking exactly what they are bringing to the table.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Personally being BI my self I do not give a rats raspberry if its given as a right or not. If I want to devote my life in a union with another I do not need the governments approval. As it stands the TAX department and Social Security consider MM, FF, and MF unions as legit. The issue of inheritance can be easily overcome with a little forethought. What matters is what my peers think, if I say I am married to him I know all my friends will acknowledge that as a fact. There is no desperate need in my view for recognition of same sex marriages, rather I would welcome the abandonment of any type of marriage in the traditional sense. It is a civil matter and the government has no place poking its nose in civil unions apart from the laws that govern contractual agreements. Why make it more complicated. Marriage is a outdated concept. Who needs it? I also do not consider any law that would require government records to record my sexuality as in mine or the public's interest. I say NO to marriage equality, I say NO to government regulated marriage agreements. With that said I hope that the issue remains unresolved because once that is out of the way, what is there left to draw public attention to the LGBT communities needs. Just my views.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I find the whole debate tiresome now, it doesn't even feel like there is anyone to argue with any-more other than a few ultra religious types. It is the vast majority that supports gay marriage - it is going to happen, I just wish the Australian Government got their shit together and got it done. The fact that Ireland beat us to it is pretty disgraceful

  • LifeUnscripted

    LifeUnscripted

    11 years ago

    While there are LGBTQ folks who don't care or want marriage equality, I also have a number of gay friends who really do want to be married and recognized as a married couple by society and their family and friends. I say let's just do it. There are no good objections anymore, the only ones with any real impact are religious ones and they shouldn't be considered in a secular society. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Blindman67' Personally being BI my self I do not give a rats raspberry if its given as a right or not. If I want to devote my life in a union with another I do not need the governments approval. As it stands the TAX department and Social Security consider MM, FF, and MF unions as legit. The issue of inheritance can be easily overcome with a little forethought. Not true. If you are not married you cannot be classified as a financial or tax dependent unless you are under the age of 18. This is particularily an issue with life insurance. If I was gay and my life partner died. I would be taxed 32% of their life cover. (assuming their insurance is paid out of super) If I am straight and my spouse dies. I would be taxed 0% of their life cover.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I thought that the 2008 government reforms gave same sex couples the same rights as de facto opposite sex couples. Both super and out of super in regard to life insurance payouts, including children of same sex couples. This also includes the same tax concessions as opposite sex couples. It was done to bring full equal rights to all Australian couples. Though I am not 100% sure. I don't remember hearing these reforms ever being over turned.