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Shag or Lover
October 04 2014
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RHP User
11 years ago
Is sex, the rest is open for interpretation.
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madotara69
11 years ago
lily, we shag all the time, it's more about getting smashed and just fucking for hours with lots of toys and stuff, then later thinking..... "what ever the fuck we did it must have been good, just look at the place it's wrecked". So a shag is outside of the quickie, but more just having a good fuck that has you getting up to all sorts of naughty shit with an excuse. Mado Tara xx
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Tall74nHard9
11 years ago
Dear Lily, you're asking for trouble with this one. As you've explained in your own previous postings, it appears you're not too really sure about the difference as it stands, and everyone is going to have different definitions of the two. Hardly two people will agree on this subject, that much I can guarantee. A shag is not the same a just a ONS, but a ONS will usually be just a shag. To me, a shag is simply a very quick root with no mental connection - a scratch to an itch, if you like. A lover is someone who will spend time with you, and maybe develop to someone who shares a mental as well as physical relationship with you. Very, very simplified description - but I think illustrates the point. Tall
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RHP User
11 years ago
A lover is someone I want to see again and again. A shag (aka a root) is not. Simples!
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RHP User
11 years ago
A lover is someone I love or have a very deep connection with in and out of the bedroom someone I have come to know over a long time, not a short term fling. Shags are everybody else. Even if you are friends with them. You are friends who shag.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I would rather have some kind of a mental connection and communicate on other levels 😌 to me a shag is meaningless and I don't even like the word .... I find it offensive and disrespectful but that's just me 🙈
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Funlover71' Is sex, the rest is open for interpretation. Agree shag is just another word for sex, like root, bonk, fuck, etc. It has no bearing on how often or not you have sex. When someone says you are just a shag (just a fuck, just a root, it was only sex), that means you were just sex and nothing more to the other person, they are not interested developing a friendship beyond the sex.
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RHP User
11 years ago
It sounds like something from a bad romance novel... I only do shags (that sounds sweet like the bird) and they are ongoing, good friends and people I adore. A ons isn't a shag that's a ons. As a disclaimer this is my opinion and cannot be generalised to anyone else 😇 Xxviolet
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6exxy
11 years ago
One of the first terms I asked about 27 years ago! As above shag has no ties, or NSA as commonly used here. Lover has depth between the two. How deep depends on each.
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RHP User
11 years ago
well I am a lover of violet crumbles............
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RHP User
11 years ago
Shaggy was my favourite from the Scooby Gang.
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6exxy
11 years ago
Nooooo not the chocolate!!!! Violetincredible .....well, who isn't? Lol
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' lily, we shag all the time, it's more about getting smashed and just fucking for hours with lots of toys and stuff, then later thinking..... "what ever the fuck we did it must have been good, just look at the place it's wrecked". So a shag is outside of the quickie, but more just having a good fuck that has you getting up to all sorts of naughty shit with an excuse. Mado Tara xx You have a way with words. Lol. thanks. hahaha
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Quoting 'Tall_n_Hard' Dear Lily, you're asking for trouble with this one. As you've explained in your own previous postings, it appears you're not too really sure about the difference as it stands, and everyone is going to have different definitions of the two. Hardly two people will agree on this subject, that much I can guarantee. A shag is not the same a just a ONS, but a ONS will usually be just a shag. To me, a shag is simply a very quick root with no mental connection - a scratch to an itch, if you like. A lover is someone who will spend time with you, and maybe develop to someone who shares a mental as well as physical relationship with you. Very, very simplified description - but I think illustrates the point. Tall why is it a can of worms. Pretty straight up question? No details. Just trying to get people's interpretation and the term shag used in a colloquial manner by some people. Shit. I sound so proper. Lol
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Seachange73
11 years ago
I see so many posts that both men and women of the forum refer to anybody they have sex with as their lovers and potential lovers, although they do not seek emotional connection nor commitments. It seems open to interpretation, as Tall has suggested. Food for thought.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Some people use the term lovers when they refer to people they have sex without the connection. It doesn't mean anything LO,. Sounds to me like you always want to invest more into things then are there.
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RHP User
11 years ago
You can shag your lovers. Food for thought.
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RHP User
11 years ago
A lover to me signifies more like a friends with benefits that's currently progressing - quite actively - toward a relationship. A shag is more like a friends with benefits. Where there are limitations of investment - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
is a beautiful sea bird...phalacrocorax aristotelis....phala,a wooden pillar...crocorax, two species..aritotelis,of great purpose... So I suppose you could say, a shagging is of great purpose,whether it is with either species....as long as their pillar is like wood :-) xxQ
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Some people use the term lovers when they refer to people they have sex without the connection. It doesn't mean anything LO,. Sounds to me like you always want to invest more into things then are there. you are assuming again. get off it.
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Quoting '6exxy' One of the first terms I asked about 27 years ago! As above shag has no ties, or NSA as commonly used here. Lover has depth between the two. How deep depends on each. thanks for the thoughtful reply. As always. X
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RHP User
11 years ago
I'll tell you after your next visit to Perth
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Quoting 'Sweetness888' I would rather have some kind of a mental connection and communicate on other levels 😌 to me a shag is meaningless and I don't even like the word .... I find it offensive and disrespectful but that's just me 🙈 thanks for your comment. As I have not really been using it, it does not mean much to me. I have not put any meaning nor importance on the term shag, It is used by some friends bht as a term in jest, on a day to day vocabulary and conversation not really. But I do understand where you are coming from and I appreciate the comment within the context. Thanks again. X
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BrightBubbly
11 years ago
A shag is just about the sex. A lover is an emotional connection along with the sex.
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RHP User
11 years ago
We just happen to shag now and again. Shag to me is a rather old fashioned term for a fuckhence the shaggin waggin I treat all the people I shag as if they are my one and only lover
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On_Safari
11 years ago
So here 'tis. A ons is exactly what others have said...a one night stand. A shag is a throwaway fuck, maybe one you visit a few times, consider it a road test to ensure it's got the goods. If they don't easy cum easy go, if they do then you may be lucky and it progresses to......A lover is a fucking awesome shag you've enjoyed repeatedly on multiple levels of kinky fuckery, intimately, deeply and with the intent to continually grind each other into sweaty, hot, uninhibited and unabashed oblivion beneath each other. Simple a gee fucks does not a lover make. Shoot me if I'm wrong it is just my opinion.....A lover develops over time and with intimacy. Then again, there are some truly great randoms out there but that's another topic 😎
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On_Safari
11 years ago
..😖
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RHP User
11 years ago
Does have a nicer " ring " to it for me too but purely based on my experience/ interpretation of people's use of the words shag root bonk fuck quickie .... Etc 😳 😌 But yes you can definitely "shag the socks off" your lover so it's the way it's used I guess.... Interpretation of a Word is all depending on the context it's used If you're listening to a song for instance id rather hear " lover " e.g. Imagine " torn between two shaggers .... "🎶🎵" as opposed to " torn between two lovers " he he 😂 yep I just sang it ....cracked me up ....😜...
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RHP User
11 years ago
I haven't had either for a while so I can't really help you with a definition! Although I have read some forum comments in the past where women refer to their "lovers". I'm just sitting here thinking, that sounds far too romantic! It's just somebody you are shagging!!
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RHP User
11 years ago
A lover is someone who I want to see in and out of the bedroom. Someone who gives me their all when we are together and who stays in contact when we're not. He is someone who I can talk to about everything and anything. He makes me want to share my body and my mind with him. When we are together it is explosive and I feel like he makes love to ALL of me. Having said that a good hard fuck doesn't go amiss either. A good shag is relatively easy to find. A great lover provides a deeper connection. Just my 2c worth. L4Q(Still chasing rainbows)
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Quoting 'inthekiss' We just happen to shag now and again. Shag to me is a rather old fashioned term for a fuckhence the shaggin waggin I treat all the people I shag as if they are my one and only lover Yes, maybe it is in one of your post you called them your lovers, regardless of frequency or intent. I have seen a couple more women who refered to the men they 'shag' as lovers. Thanks for your input.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Most people appear to be one a similar same page with slight differences. I am in with inthekiss. To me shag simply means "fuck", and hence the shagging wagon (if it's rockin don't bother knockin etc). Means they are in there fucking; however, as our mothers (mine anyway) would be very upset if she heard me say "fuck", it therefore seemed like a bad word and shag sounded much nicer, or at least get away with. Hence, it could be a ons, friend, or long term relationship, even wife / husband. I have heard of people who spent all day or night "shagging", so not just a quickie. To me then "Shag" simply means "fuck", but did not sound so rude back in the old days.
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Tall74nHard9
11 years ago
Looks like you were in the stages of getting hot n bothered there ..... Tall
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'JerseyGirl'I have read some forum comments in the past where women refer to their "lovers". I'm just sitting here thinking, that sounds far too romantic! It's just somebody you are shagging!! My lovers are the men and women I share a real connection and friendship with. They are most definitely not people I'm "just" shagging. If they were, I'd refer to them as fuckbuddies.
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RHP User
11 years ago
POSTCODE...Peppy Grove, Toorak, Bankstown...
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madotara69
11 years ago
So you singles think yoooooou own shagging tooooo hey? Well how do you explain my shaggers back. huh? You can be in love and still have a shag. It's just not part of the birds and the bees you would tell the kids when you have that talk. 20 years and still proudly shagging. Every time we make love we have a kid.
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RHP User
11 years ago
My lover is anyone I sleep with (noun)- for me there's no connotation apart from someone I sleep with - more than once though, a shag is the act of fucking (verb), lover can also be a verb - that guy was an amazing lover...
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RHP User
11 years ago
Lily that when women refer to their lovers they include people they barely know...It's a lovely old fashioned term and I much prefer it to the crudeness of initialisms xxQ
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'lilyorchid' Yes, maybe it is in one of your post you called them your lovers, regardless of frequency or intent. I have seen a couple more women who refered to the men they 'shag' as lovers. Thanks for your input. Who is assuming now. How do you know those women are just shagging these men and why is this important? People use the term differently so I don't understand the significance of this question really.
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Seachange73
11 years ago
I didnt assume. Dont kniw why you came to that conclusion. A question posed and yiu gice yiur interpretation. I dont use shag. Fot me I am old fashioned still and have used term lovers rather thanj shad or fuck. I like inthekiss' interpretatiin. The term feb and fuckbuddy has creeped into my vocabulary as I have joined rhp and exploring the dynamics. So your tske? - Posted from rhpmobile
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Before yiu go on a rant again, it is a ststement of an observation I have made. So chill. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Old fashioned because you use one word over another. I disagree. I think people use the word lover because it is more romantic. Maybe people use the term because they want to pretty up a situation which in reality is just a shag. But obviously I can be very crude at times, and I really enjoy it.
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RHP User
11 years ago
once or twice, wham bam. anything else i think would fall in to the lover category.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Old fashioned because you use one word over another. I disagree. I think people use the word lover because it is more romantic. Maybe people use the term because they want to pretty up a situation which in reality is just a shag. I think that's why you mainly see women using the word lover.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I totally agree. I'm sure there are some legitimate lovers out there, but I also believe some people use the term "lover" as the term "fuck buddy" or whatshisname seems a bit too crass for some.
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RHP User
11 years ago
do we have to label it ? its someone your having sex with Maybe it will continue on for some time, maybe it will last for only one encounter It will be what it will be Does it really matter as long as you both enjoyed each other for the time allocated ? Sometimes we over think things.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Being abit of a romantic, I like to think ( in fact I know ). I always see myself as making love not shagging.. Recently , I was having a drink and heart to heart with a long time female friend who asked me if I ever thought we should have had sex .. Surprised'. I admitted the thought had pass my mind but because of circumstances that's where it stayed.. She admitted it was the same for her.. Surprising what a few drinks can do... Anyway, nothing happened, it's still just a thought... Because I respect her as a long time friend I find having a shag for the sake of it abit uncomfortable...
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madotara69
11 years ago
This is, retorting shagging as an meaningless fling.
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Tall74nHard9
11 years ago
Perhaps now you understand why I opened my first commentary with the heading "Can of worms".... Tall
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RHP User
11 years ago
A quick shag or a fuck is something we could potentially go out and pick up any time. It takes time to get to know a lover in the deeper sense of the word (excuse the pun) Someone told me a few days ago that he would like to make love to me. I replied that it would not be making love but at this stage would be fucking aka shagging as we have not yet established that deeper connection. IMO you can fuck a lover but not make love to someone you JUST occaisonly fuck
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'On_Safari' So here 'tis. A ons is exactly what others have said...a one night stand. A shag is a throwaway fuck, maybe one you visit a few times, consider it a road test to ensure it's got the goods. If they don't easy cum easy go, if they do then you may be lucky and it progresses to......A lover is a fucking awesome shag you've enjoyed repeatedly on multiple levels of kinky fuckery, intimately, deeply and with the intent to continually grind each other into sweaty, hot, uninhibited and unabashed oblivion beneath each other. Simple a gee fucks does not a lover make. Shoot me if I'm wrong it is just my opinion.....A lover develops over time and with intimacy. Then again, there are some truly great randoms out there but that's another topic 😎 I think this about wraps it up as far as I'm concerned... G x
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RHP User
11 years ago
I loved your postxxQ
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Hottie1
11 years ago
Colloquially, shag has always represented the act of rooting, fucking etc. As single guy has pointed out, we have often adopted euphemistic terms to 'discuss' taboo topics. Today, it is ok to be crude ( Meeka xxoo ) and we often deploy dysphemistic terms. In the past you wouldn't be able to talk about your fuck buddies but you might about a 'lover' because it was more acceptable to describe the act of fucking, coitus, sex, being intimate. rooting etc. in that way. So as afar as I'm concerned, your shag can be a lover and vice versa. Mary xx
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RHP User
11 years ago
Shag is something like booty call...just a fuck. Lover you know :)
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Kairi' do we have to label it ? I don't think we do, but Lily asked a question and she got answers. Isn't that the idea?
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RHP User
11 years ago
A shag is a term for sex purely on a physical level, with implications of selfishness... The term Lover implies a meaningful connection based on love - not selfish, and therefor more likely for both parties to be turned on by getting the other person off. This really brings up a question, how sacred is sex for you? It seems like lovers find the term shag off putting, and shaggers- well vice versa. Really, sex needs to be performed in all sorts of manners to keep it interesting! It is possible to shag your lover, might not work so well to love your shagger...
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RHP User
11 years ago
I think it is one of those words that it depends on where you were raised it may have a different meaning. I've had some (mainly English) friends who use it like an Aussie might use the word "root" or "screw"or "fuck". It is something that you do.... a verb. You may shag a lover a FB/BWB or a ONS. That's my take on it. Someone may be referred to a "shag"in the same way as someone is referred to as a "fuck" or "root". In that context I would suggest, for me, that there is not an emotional connection, but rather it is more a physical thing. A lover would indicate more of an emotional and intellectual connection with the person. The work "spunk"has different meaning depending on where you are from. As does "spoof" and "fanny".
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LeyMatt
11 years ago
From my perspective and experience.. Sometimes I am just feel like I want to Shag..It means I just feel like want to have wild, quick, crazy, unexpected, and spontaneous sex anywhere (outside, beach, work) and etc.. Lover is a person who I am meeting repeatedly and having wonderful, amazing, romantic time and romance... I believe that sometimes Lovers just Shag as well if they don't have much time to see each other... And Fantheflame is right.. You can Shag your lover, but you don't have to love your shagger.... Have a wonderful day everyone.. - Posted from rhpmobile
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Seachange73
11 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Quoting 'lilyorchid' Yes, maybe it is in one of your post you called them your lovers, regardless of frequency or intent. I have seen a couple more women who refered to the men they 'shag' as lovers. Thanks for your input. Who is assuming now. How do you know those women are just shagging these men and why is this important? People use the term differently so I don't understand the significance of this question really. don't twist things into anything negative. I dont want this post hijacked again. Thanks. It simple question, if you dont want to answer in the post, you can skip this.
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Seachange73
11 years ago
to all you have given their take on it. Quite informative. Most have been very helpful. Mary has put it in context for me as lover is used in euphemistic way rather than the word 'shag' and it may be it is cultural thing. Again, good answers from most posters and thanks.
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RHP User
11 years ago
LMAO! 😀
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'looking4quality' ... IMO you can fuck a lover but not make love to someone you JUST occaisonly fuck That uis a good point too. I always thought that in the past (previous centuries had been more prudish than this one) a "lover" did not necessarily mean sex - just a relationship that was serious enough for the people to be considered "involved" by the society. It is in fact an expectation of society that people use certain terms in certain situations. I do not use "fuck" or "shag" except when alone with a person that I already have sex with... But I can speak about "having sex" or "making love" to my teenage kids without a problem. I too have some ingrained terms and their uses in my subconscious vocabulary... This was so well demonstrated in the recent Aus movie The litte Death - intimate partners (husbands and wives) could not openly talk about their fetishes because they simply did not have words.. Well, that's it, a different topic altogether :-)
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RHP User
11 years ago
I agree with Mado, or Tara, or both. I have never heard of "had too much sex back" , or "made passionate love too often back", I have only ever heard "shaggers back" (even though caused by the same thing). I therefore believe it is not a derogatory term, and can mean making love or having sex, or with ONS or wife / partner of 20-years. I believe it is just a non-rude (older fashioned) way of saying "fuck or sex" for those people who did not like their mouth's being washed out with soap.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Shagging someone and loving someone could very well be two different things and also the same thing... A shag could mean someone that was picked up taken back to hotel or apartment and done the deed A lover could be someone that you enjoy making love to there is a stigma of feeling on the lover idea... I think the shag one is a bit of a spur of the moment thing.... Dammit i wish i had a lover :(
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'giddyupp' Quoting 'On_Safari' So here 'tis. A ons is exactly what others have said...a one night stand. A shag is a throwaway fuck, maybe one you visit a few times, consider it a road test to ensure it's got the goods. If they don't easy cum easy go, if they do then you may be lucky and it progresses to......A lover is a fucking awesome shag you've enjoyed repeatedly on multiple levels of kinky fuckery, intimately, deeply and with the intent to continually grind each other into sweaty, hot, uninhibited and unabashed oblivion beneath each other. Simple a gee fucks does not a lover make. Shoot me if I'm wrong it is just my opinion.....A lover develops over time and with intimacy. Then again, there are some truly great randoms out there but that's another topic 😎 I think this about wraps it up as far as I'm concerned... G x Yes, indeed.Great sex is a mind meld, a glorious positive feedback loop. Random sex can be that, but more likely to be throw away sex- what some mean by a shag. I wouldnt ever demean great sex by calling it a shag, but thats just IMHO. Great sex needs an understanding of needs and wants, which may be hard to attain at first meeting without equally great communication. Before or during. I'll shut up now.
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RHP User
11 years ago
a shag to me is Fast / Hot / Impromptu a lover is something my mothers would say I hate the term lover is sounds so old fashion I prefer my partner if I am referring to my more regular SHAG hehehe
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RHP User
11 years ago
Wel known bar in Perth, never been lucky there, though......
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RHP User
11 years ago
shag pile burns from shagging on the shag pile?:-) xxQ
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