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Was That Crossing A Line ?
September 09 2018
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RHP User
7 years ago
Fuck this world. So because someone says a joke, they shouldn't have a job? Pathetic. Everyone needs to get off their high horse. - Posted from rhpmobile
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boobsandbusted
7 years ago
this one is one of the greyist of grey areas , not black and white at all ,be a great topic for debates in all schools ,very interesting ,apart from the person is an asshole ,that bit us set in stone mr b - Posted from rhpmobile
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
Its a similar situation to the married guy getting caught out by a lover. I dont think it's ok to drag an innocent party into it for the sake of making you feel better about a bad situation. He may had too many drinks, bad day, who knows. It's not something illegal so therefore not something for an employer should deal with. To affect someone's livelihood may have repercussions far beyond a regrettable online one liner. It's easy to get caught up in the moment and write something that a few seconds later is regretted. Really, everyone in tweet world should calm the fuck down. Closest thing I've come to a tweet is having my breakfast cereal with far too many bird seeds in.
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RHP User
7 years ago
It is black and white. Words are just words. There's a feral fake morality around. I'm offended! So what, is that a bad thing? Australians are the worst dobbers on the planet. I'm sure that guy has said something far worse or sicker at some point in his life. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Anniewhichway speaks truth. - Posted from rhpmobile
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egr2please69
7 years ago
The guy is deploreable for saying it in a public arena in the first place but we have all said things we know we shouldn't have and regret saying in the cold light of day. As stated it wasn't on the worksite, in uniform etc etc so to me contacting his employer is going too far. Ridicule him, call him out but you can't ruin someone's livelyhood. Glass houses i think! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Don't say anything on the net you wouldn't shout out loud in the street. I'll save this one for late, like just after closing time... wanna fuck.
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FeistyFatty
7 years ago
A dickhead comment made by a dickhead simple as that. Read it and move along from it with no further thought than that. Offended though really??? I read this and was more, "Oh no thats not gonna go down too well". But people seriously need to stop taking such vehement nose out of joint stances resulting in their glorious high horse moments. Not EVERYTHING needs to be taken to heart. Not EVERYTHING needs to even be commented on. And as for the dickhead of the moment being hauled over the coals and possible disciplinary action/termination from his employer, THAT i take more offense at than his initial stupid thoughtless comment. Bloody clusterfuck of overreactions in that entire situation - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I wouldn't dob him in to his employer myself, but I dont think it's going to far that someone else would. Dave from AGL sounds like a person of shit character and an A-grade wanker. I'm sure that he is precisely the sort of person that AGL would feel is inconsistent with their core values...regardless of wether he toes the line in the workplace. Maybe this will be a lesson to him( and others ) in his next job that being a shit cunt online or at home can have far reaching consequences. At least he'll still be alive for his next job. My father died of MND when I was 21. It's a cruel disease that slowly...or quickly...paralyzes the body, but leaves the mind alone. Reducing active people to thinking husks of flesh, unable to move or speak, before it eventually paralyzes the heart. My father was given 3 years when he was diagnosed...and 3 years it was. No more. It's a shit way to die. There's no glory in it...no enduring last words at the end. Fuck Dave from AGL. Hope he learns a lesson from this. Because Daniher is doing something honourable with his life while he still has one.
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tcm70
7 years ago
I respect and admire Neil Daniher. He has been a great ambassador for afl and also now for MND. I have one of the brain freeze beanies and wear it proudly during winter. As much as it’s horrible to hear some fuckwit poke fun at Neil’s disability, I think we need to be very very careful about what consequences the culprit should face, for this issue and many other similiar tasteless comments that pop up referring to people in public spotlight. Sure what he said was extremely insensitive and downright moronic, but alas, it’s his right to speak as he wishes. If everyone who has said some offensive comment or such is removed from their job, then not many people would still be employed, the old stone throwing Jesus comment. Perhaps if he was using AGL as the platform from which he spoke then that could be considered a breach of the companies directives, but if it was only from his personal page then I think his employers have no right to sack or reprimand him, if anything just a quiet word to him behind the scene to show they don’t support his actions. I’m sure the guy is going to cop enough vitriol from general public and peers. I’d hope Neil himself would not take anything from it, and just look at it from the perspective of, the guy is nothing but an ignorant, classless fuckwit and doesn’t deserve wasting energy thinking about.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Businesses and core values, what utter bollocks. It's just pretend. They sell pollution, we buy it, and then demand they sack sometime for a joke? I laughed when I read the tweet, my mate laughed when I told him about this hoorah. The lots of bad stuff happening to people all over the world, everyone dies from something. No one is special, grief is part of life. Might as well have a chuckle. Does anyone seriously think that the footy coach is there all bent or of shape because of this? He might be laughing at it, you never know. It's no one's role to get offended on behalf of someone else. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
The world...heck, the neighbourhood...won't become a better place, when shit people show they can share their deplorable values in public without any fear of recrimination.I think it's good that a corporation is showing it doesn't need employees like that...whatever the honest reason.
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Freaky_Fun
7 years ago
Kool, hugs to you and couldn't agree more. Fuck Dave. Wouldn't be the first time he's been a wanker. Would l contact his employer. No. But if you're going to say shit like that and advertise where you work on social media you can expect someone will. Some companies like mine have Codes of Conduct you have to abide by in or out of the workplace, is it fair, maybe not but that's what you sign up for. And anyone that thinks saying fucked up shit like that about someone dying is a joke is just as bad.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Love is the answer. Not sounding a bit like a totalitarian. I'd rather those "shit people" say what they want instead of hiding it. Treading on eggshells never changes hearts. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Wow. How does anyone know Dave is a shit person? Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Preaching tolerance and harmony whilst being judgey seems weird to me. So because of one comment most of you have damned him. And all the "he shouldn't be sacked but..." comments. This is the problem with all this social media shite, the projection is amazing. I'm more disheartened by humanity when I see dumb mob reactions than off colour comments. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
It's one comment, not Mein Kampf! I'm out of here, the stench of self righteousness is overpowering.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Dave from AGL is a shit person because, with one public tweet, he chose to paint himself as one.He could be spending his weekends cooking food for Sydneys homeless for all I know....but that wouldn't make one cruel public comment "okay" in some sort of warped karmic balance of things. What he is "really" like is irrelevant. I and we don't need to know that...he's already spoken for himself in that regard.What's important here is that he chose to make his "joke" public. That he felt his thoughts were worthy of sharing with the rest of the world. It's that free-will thing again...and he exercised it, all right.Taking responsibility for our words and actions has been expected of every one of us since forever, and he's been sharply reminded of that. The idea that that posting our thoughts online gives them automatic "online diplomatic immunity" seems to have grown with the spread of the world wide web.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'Freaky_Fun'Would l contact his employer. No. But if you're going to say shit like that and advertise where you work on social media you can expect someone will. Some companies like mine have Codes of Conduct you have to abide by in or out of the workplace, is it fair, maybe not but that's what you sign up for.______________________________________________________________I work for a large Aussie organisation that is known worldwide and has employees worldwide.I'm sure that if I said something adverse about someone on social media and a colleague saw it, my employer would be made aware of it as it would be against their core values and code of conduct. My employment wouldn't be terminated however I would be spoken to, questioned and asked to explain myself or at the very least, I would be "watched"Just googled the meaning of the word joke.Answer: "a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline"Mean, hard-hearted comments such as the one "Dave" made about Neale Daniher would NOT regarded as a joke by my employer or by anyone I mix regularly with so if you use the word joke to describe Dave's comment on Twitter, you have a strange sense of humour.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'Koolgrey' Dave from AGL is a shit person because, with one public tweet, he chose to paint himself as one.He could be spending his weekends cooking food for Sydneys homeless for all I know....but that wouldn't make one cruel public comment "okay" in some sort of warped karmic balance of things. What he is "really" like is irrelevant. I and we don't need to know that...he's already spoken for himself in that regard.What's important here is that he chose to make his "joke" public. That he felt his thoughts were worthy of sharing with the rest of the world. It's that free-will thing again...and he exercised it, all right.Taking responsibility for our words and actions has been expected of every one of us since forever, and he's been sharply reminded of that. The idea that that posting our thoughts online gives them automatic "online diplomatic immunity" seems to have grown with the spread of the world wide web.________________________________________ and many hugs to you Koolman.I have a friend whose dear sister died of MND so was made aware many years ago of how cruel this affliction is.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Lack of empathy can also exhibit itself as borderline behaviour, a common pattern of which to insert oneself into dramas. Or narcissism, where ones opinions are right and others must bend or be damned. Empathy would be to step into Dave's shoes as well as the other person. Empathy is non judgemental. Unconditional positive regard isn't just for people you like. And it doesn't condone or condemn. Too much hate and anger in the world, you could fight it with anger, hate, retribution if that floats your boat. And on that bombshell of hope, I'm closing my account, peace and love everyone. - Posted from rhpmobile
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
Can someone give a single valid reason why his employer should be involved? Unless l missed the memo that said dickheads cannot be employed. Otherwise we would have all the dickheads unemployed competing with all the drugheads to rob us. As an employer lm not concerned what my employees do in their own time. I do ask them that if they do any armed bank jobs on the way home, they take the company tshirt off first.......
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RHP User
7 years ago
Maybe I missed it, but I have not read anywhere that "Dave" was aware that the guy had MND. If he did know then he deserved everything he got (except for contacting his employer that is). However, if he did not know then it could be just an innocent mistake / passionate outburst. I certainly did not know, but I do not follow AFL. My question is "if Dave did not know he had MND, what would the reaction / response be" Should he be punished for being ignorant of the fact ?
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RHP User
7 years ago
Than a POS who thinks it’s ok to degrade and belittle someone’s namesake and or life period.. I hope the sack muncher gets what’s coming to him. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Koolgrey you have a very personal attachment to this story, and you are obviously very upset. I don't recall ever seeing any posts from you with any vitriol at all, let alone on this scaleWhen you strip your argument down, though, you want to ruin a persons life - regardless of whether this person is in all other respects a nice person, (and he could be an absolute cunt but he could also be a nice bloke - you don't know and nor do I) over an ill-advised joke on a social media platform. Destroy their lives. There is a very good book on this titled ''So You've Been Publicly Shamed'' by Jon Ronson, which shows just how far these things can go. Adopting a scorched-earth ''burn their lives to the ground'' approach can be seen as a mob mentality, and online shaming has being compared more and more to the witch hunts from the days of yore. Like others have said, the employer should have been left out of it but there is also the caveat of his supposedly advertising who we works for on his Twitter profile which can change things. The company I work for is quite specific about this - if your social media profile mentions us in any way and you say stupid things, reprisals will be in order. This is probably quite similar I dare say to most employers' social media policies. So, if Dave does list his employer on his profile, then Dave is a tool. Does Dave deserve to lose his job? Not in my opinion. And besides, we all know it doesn't stop there - families get dragged into it as well. The knock-on effects are, in my opinion, disproportionate.
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RHP User
7 years ago
You put a post up , go out for the day , come home, log in and whoa 1. Thankyou to all so far who have posted, I loved reading everyone's opinions on ethical issues like this 2. Boobs, for me, it is a black and white issue, but then that's me, I'm not fond of grey, not having a shot at you but for me the issue is very clear 3. Kool if I may, I am so sorry to read about your Dad. I cant imagine and wont even try to but thankyou for sharing and I do hope that one day this insidious and cruel disease is cured. I applaud Daniher for going public when he could have kept quiet but in choosing not to has raised the profile, awareness and more importantly, much required funds that someday, somehow, a cure will be found. I do hope this forum has not adversely affected you but I understand if it has. I hope you will accept my apologies if this is the case, but I also think this is an important issue to be discuss in todays response to any social media comments and their consequences 4. Meander, I nearly fell off my seat now as I read your post. I wont ask for more details as its up to you to share but I had to read your post like three times. Just no, that is so wrong on so many levels. Like WTF ? 5. Single Guy for you, "Dave" described himself as a Geelong tragic, therefore I am happy to call it that he would also be a AFL tragic and accordingly he would be fully aware of Neal Daniher, and his condition and its effects (sadly Neale does slur as it was his slurred speech which was one of his first symptoms and it was how he spoke that made his wife urge him to go to the doctors in the first place - she thought he had had a minor stroke) so no sorry but he was fully aware of what he was writing and therefore your comment although thought provoking doesn't figure in this case into Dave's defence My thoughts Dave is fucking scum bag moron Jay who called Dave out on social media, I admire for calling him out but that's it, for calling him out only No I do not believe that Jay should have contacted AGL I do not believe that AGL should get involved I appreciate AGL comments however this has nothing to do with Dave professional life which I assume is between the hours of 9-5pm Monday to Friday I am self employed and employ a staff of 9. When they knock off work each evening , what they do during their down time is of no consequence nor my concern unless they are representing my company in some form being predominantly is that we have uniforms with my company name and logo on it and I would be most upset if they chose to act like fuckwits while wearing their uniform but I control little. People make choices I am not their arbiter of moral consequences or their guardian angel of good sense Their life, their business, is not mine. Its bad enough at times I have to deal with other personal issues that they bring to work during the week but that is the life of a boss, that at times your employees have shit going on in their lives and need some slack cut which I do, but for good staff I am prepared to do that and I do But I do not own them. I like to think that the staff I have would not stoop so low and I would personally be horrified if they did but I have no say in the matter If I was contacted like AGL was, yes I would let my employee know that I was contacted, I would probably ask my employee wtf were they thinking, I would probably say "dude not cool", I would mentally file it away but I wouldn't watch him nor reprimand him but yes I would express my disappointment but that is all, because they are a grown adult who made a choice, a stupid choice but a choice and they will reap accordingly As a boss I've made mistakes too, people make mistakes, its what makes us human But for me, personal and work shouldn't blur or cross any line, I even feel strongly about people even dating at work. It is sea fraught with potential danger and careful navigation is required Just recently I shared that I have recently closed my personal Facebook account because a client contacted me and sent me a friend request. No. I do not want to be friends with clients. Friends/Clients/NO, is a crossed line At the gang of 6 last night one of the girls works in HR, and shared that when they hire ( a reasonably large company but not well known) that they check potential employees social media if they can access it. I was outraged but she informed me this is quite norm In case you're wondering yes in my business because our clients are the general public we naturally have policies in place (drug/Alcohol) and a Code of Ethics and Conduct and if they are breached there is instant termination due to the nature of my business..but being a obnoxious dickhead doesn't breach any policy or code but it does make you shake your head Luckily I haven't had to enforce it, yet repeat, Dave is douche and I'm sure he is copping heaps although a search of media tonight has not revealed publicly what his fate is. Hate to be him rocking up to work tomorrow I'm just sorry that there are Daves taking up space in the world and as for the dearly and recently departed Fun420 , fun right ?, yeah ok, whatever Mate you had some valid points till you went the "I laugh when I read the tweet, my mate laughed when I told him about this hoorah" route Thanks for showing us the true definition of a fucking loser, seeya Felicia I wish the Demons all the best next week
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RHP User
7 years ago
The mystery Dave posts a stupid offensive joke online. Someone tracks down his employer and dobs him in to them and the employer publically states they will take action. Will he like his job? Who knows, but it has happened before and if the mob creates enough heat then AGL might think that sacking Dave needs to happen. So out goes Dave, don't bother to clean your desk, the security guard will escort you off the premises now. I am guessing that Geelong isn't bursting at the seams with job opportunities right now, so Dave finds it hard to find another job. It isn't long before the bank comes knocking and, with no income to speak of, the inevitable repossession happens. So Dave has to start looking for a rental. Except he has no job, no income, and now a trashed credit rating, so no rental agency will touch him. Oh, did we mention his wife and two kids? They are homeless now too, because she had stayed home to look after the kids and she is not having any success landing work either. They have to take their kids out of school - the word about Dave has got around and the kids are being relentlessly bullied at school. So now not just Dave but his family are out on the street. And for what, because someone thought it was fun to inform his employer of a stupid joke? And if you think this is just hypothetical, ask yourself how long you could last if you lost your job tomorrow, you couldn't find work. your savings drain away, and banks and rentals didn't want to know about you. We live in times where so many are just looking for the slightest opportunity to be outraged, where the slightest transgression is unforgivable and brands you as the worst possible person until the end of your days. No punishment is enough, no judgement is too harsh, no righteous anger burns hot enough, no cause is too trivial. - Posted from rhpmobile
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tcm70
7 years ago
Well said mate. Totally agree. And I did chuckle at the “Dave’s not home” Cheech and Chong quote. I thought Fun420 might’ve got a smile from that himself, due to his namesake,tho sadly he seems to have taken this all to personally. If anything. I think it’s a good lesson in that we all need to be fkn careful about what we write on social media. It’s not just our mates next to us that hear what we say. If that was said pre the technology, most likely only a handful of people would have heard it. A good mate of his would’ve/should’ve told him to pull his head in, others would laugh. But the rest of the world would remain blissfully ignorant to the comment.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Bloody autocorrect! Here goes once more... lol So, the thing that might, and can cost him his job, is the fact he DID have AGL on his profile. That's like wearing your uniform in a public place. Therefore he's been caught out and dobbed on. This is like ppl who write to schools, about how their students may act in public, on their way to school, or home. The only thing that might, and can save him from losing his job, is someone went intentionally looking to dob them in, during non-working hours. Truly, AGL is not being represented by him at that time. For example, if someone had an offensive tattoo, and someone saw it in public, found where they worked, and complained, the company can't say to them to remove their shirt and show them. IMO, I feel he might be spoken to, and warned to be more aware of his actions in the future, but as disgusting as his comments were, they shouldn't be sackable unless he's broken work rules. Other than that...? He deserves to cop shit from the public, and have his membership ripped up, and banned from attending games. - Posted from rhpmobile
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usrightnow_Again
7 years ago
When people don't speak up against things like Dave said, we run the risk of them becoming normalised. The fifty years of my life, is littered with outrageous normalised and accepted behaviour, that should never have been allowed to become so. .. Kool, I seem to remember you speaking of your father's passing before, however, not the MND, thank you for sharing and for an articulate forthright opinion. I'm sorry to hear your father's final years were chained by this crippling and horrific disease... I suffer from an incurable disease, although not MND. I have previously only spoken to Meander about this. I have been ridiculed, mocked, disparaged because of it, by people I know and people I don't know. Yes, words said without thought or care can inflict a pain of their own. .. We know someone who has MND, it has been so awful seeing their life taken away from them, step by step, over the last few years. Dreadful for the family too. Making fun, mocking such disability and disease is something I have no tolerance for. Able bodied people truly often don't know how lucky they are and how quickly their lives and health can change. The struggles involved with incurable, significant impact diseases, are challenging enough. And in this instance, it involves a man with an awful disease, doing his best, continuing to contribute in a positive way to society. .. On the Jay/AGL question, a few people have pointed out, that by Dave including his place of employment on his Social Media, he leaves himself open to recrimination, should the business involved decide to and as mentioned by some, many businesses now have policies in place that state there may be consequences to ill advised Social Media posts, that in some way link their name, and therefore their business Good Will, to that post or posts. There is No mention anywhere that he'll lose his job. We live in a changed world, get used to the new landscape. As for the ridiculous "free speech" argument, that's not what that is for. Some things are simply, Not a joke. Vamp., thanks for the definition, for the slow learners. What was okay decades ago, may not be so today. .. It's important that people continue to speak up against such behaviour. .. Mr. urn. .
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RHP User
7 years ago
"So now not just Dave but his family are out on the street. And for what, because someone thought it was fun to inform his employer of a stupid joke?" You really think that a colleague or an employer doesn't have social media? Seriously 🙄 And please enlighten me as to which part was the joke? I must have missed that bit. Here's a thought maybe Dave should behave like an adult and he'll get treated like one. Ms PF
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RHP User
7 years ago
Daniher's wife and children that are watching their father slowly dying and will eventually lose him through no fault of their own.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Billy was never one for being PC, however one of the few serious things he said was to never mock the afflicted. Say what ever you want, do what ever you want, just don't cry poor me when there are consequences. Additionally if the consequences involve third parties then it falls back on the initial transgression. It's also true that two wrongs don't make a right, and this appears to apply to this situation. Talking of sore losers who saw Eddie Everywhere at the footy in Perth?
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countrytouch82
7 years ago
Context always matters. As for never mocking the afflicted, sometimes the afflicted can do so themselves. I'm thinking of Steady Eddy among others. The point is, in these cases (stand up comedy) there is a limited and targetted audience. Even his jokes or references would be highly inappropriate and hurtful in a different context. In the OP case the person had no regard for who would be listening, which can be anyone, including the person being talked about, because it was done on a publicly accessible medium, it may as well have been a megaphone. However I also do not condone a religious style infinite punishment for finite crime approach. However as he made his comment public, it has the possibility to hurt many many people as opposed to saying it in person in a private group etc. I'm sure he's learnt his lesson now, regardless I'm sure others can learn from it also. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Thankyou Dragon, Mr Urn, Vampa, Pips. Your humanity is appreciated. Ms PassionFreaks mentioned some things that were on my mind at the start of this, too. The consideration shown towards Neale Danihers wife, children and extended family. Namely, not enough, frankly. Here's a dying man dedicating his remaining years to helping others, and too many people for my liking are bitching and moaning about "stupid jokes" taken too far, and "what if he loses his job and his house and blah, blah, blah.."Yeah? What if Neale's daughter Lauren can't take the denigration of her father anymore and cops a glass in the face one day? What if?Grown-up people live in the here and now...not the land of "what if." Schapelle Corby was imprisoned for 9 years in Indonesia for drug smuggling and she seems to be doing just fine. I hear she's just released her first single..12 months from now, no-one will remember who Dave-what's-his-name from AGL was. I'm sure he'll manage to land on his feet. And if he loses his job at AGL....so what? There will always be plenty of fish and chip shops or cafes in Geelong and surrounds in need of a hardworking kitchen-hand. It's respectable work....isn't it? That I'm seemingly expected to feel guilt because I'm not compassionate towards an arsehole of a man, is mildly insulting. Again, I hope he learns a lesson from this.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Was lucky enough to work with an incredibly talented individual who had this condition...I think he would have said the remark was ignorant and foolish not to mention incredibly tasteless and that the individual concerned was ill educated or plain nasty but I seriously doubt he would have endorsed interfering with his employment.
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theoxisback14
7 years ago
This guy did a stupid thing on social media and now the world knows who he is. Someone that works in that company would’ve found about it anyway and it would get dealt with. We’re all done things before that we’re not proud of and we have to live with that. No need for someone to stick their nose in a ruin his life anymore. Neil Daniher is a legend for what he is doing 👍 - Posted from rhpmobile
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boobsandbusted
7 years ago
found out one of my fave clients has just been diagnosed with mnd, 😢 glad they found it early when his speech changed but still sad for him and his family such an awesome person ,hope he gets the holidays in quickly that they have been saving for and enjoys the hell out of himself mr b . - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I don't think the tweet is that offensive. I think people should stop looking for things to take to heart. What did Daniher say? Or did he not care? I'd say the person who reported it to AGL is causing more damage. Someone with nothing better to do in their life is going to directly affect a family. I find that harder to swallow than a throwaway comment. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
You’re shitting me, right ????????? What Snap said
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RHP User
7 years ago
You may look like Wonder Women but seriously. I absolutely disagree with the comment but I have not read anything on here that convinces me he new about the condition (just because he may be a tragic does not mean he actually knows what is going on). However, suppose we accept that he did know as I can't be bothered looking up the original tweet, then to me it just shows some evidence that he is either ignorant or just a bogen (or both), and I suspect that an intelligent well known legend would not be taking too much notice of Dave's comments. Therefore, although distasteful and wrong, If it were me I would not be giving it a second thought. Maybe I am wrong though. Has Neil Daniher or his family commented somewhere that they are very upset, or is it just social media that is outraged. Not that I am accepting the behaviour but maybe Dave has a medical condition or intellectual condition that he has no control over ?
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
I thought everyone thought Dave was a sick fuck and the debate was about involving the employer.. or not. Different take by the Dom......
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RHP User
7 years ago
I'm pretty sure they have more pressing things to worry about than some words on twitter. Taking offence on behalf of what you perceive others to think is ridiculous and creates this online crusader mentality that ruins lives. Context: A friend of mine had her father pass away from MND in 2010. Her only thought as the diagnosis was made was about his journey and the family's journey. What someone may have thought about it good or bad simply did not figure. So I think the only people taking offence here are the ones who are not directly affected but like to show off a sense of social morality which in the real world nobody has to that degree. It is then escalating into people losing jobs, families / children being negatively affected. But yes....that is justice. Online warriors go! Grow up people.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Think about it, wasn’t that the whole point that he (Dave) was fully aware, hence why he tweeted the words in the first place ? Not sure where or why your twisting this around to suit yourself ? It’s already been established. Reread the Original post As for having shots at how someone looks in their profile pic, tad sad don’t you think ? A suggestion, how about discussing and debating the posts written not having cheap little narkies at peoples presentation, not cool Jason, suggest you google this story and see exactly how many people are outraged but perhaps you missed the whole point of the OP being not the original tweet but in Dave being reported to his employer for being a moron Should he be reported for a non related work incident, that’s the crux of the OP
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RHP User
7 years ago
I thought I was on a site for sex and dating - Posted from rhpmobile
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theoxisback14
7 years ago
Anyone that follows AFL knows about Neil Danihers condition All because his team lost - Posted from rhpmobile
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FeistyFatty
7 years ago
Brings about a good point if everyone on this bandwagon would actually calm down, take their PC Blinders off and realise..... Who was offended?? A few, alot, everyone on the face of the planet??? Whoopdedo!!! No physical harm has befallen a single soul from some dickhead who has run his mouth in the heat/excitement of the moment and said a bloody stupid thing. We've all said stupid things that have caused offence or put our feet in our mouths in the quest for humour and its ended up an epic failure. If were all bloody honest enough, and it seems theres WAY too many Saints and Polly Perfects here for any admissions, we have all even giggled or laughed at totally inappropriate jokes. Be they in person or on some form of social media. Get off your high horses and gain some perspective. And yes, apparently its required fodder for credibility and entitlement to spit venom and have an opinion on this matter, I have buried a sibling from MND. And despite the personal attachment, I still dont want to glorify a wankers brain fart with any form of reaction. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I have re-read the original post and there is nothing in it that proves it has been "established" Happy for to point out exactly where it has been established. "A man by the name of David describing himself in his Twitter bio as a Geelong tragic (although it is not known if he is a paid member of the GFC) tweeted the following in relation, that Melbourne will play Hawthorn next week in prelim final" "Will be good for Melbourne fans to get to hear Daniher slur the words to the song one last time I guess" "A Geelong tragic, not necessarily a paid member" does not mean he is aware of the circumstances. Still a stupid ignorant thing to say but I don't think a sackable offence. Was watching an old Western the other week and this guy was caught riding a horse with someone else's brand on so they hung him. Came out later the guy came across the horse as the cowboy had been killed by outlaws and was returning the horse to its owners. Too late though for the hung man. I reckon that is why we have a Court system with benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. Could be wrong though. Secondly, your comment about "not having cheap little narkies at peoples presentation, not cool" is also incorrect. Appears people are very quick to jump to incorrect conclusions. My comment about SD looking like Wonder women was a compliment as I think she looks gorgeous. Or is me admiring a gorgeous women on RHP also offensive ?
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AKAHunk
7 years ago
As much as the guy is an uneducated troll, he really doesn't deserve to lose his job over an ignorant statement. I'm sure the backlash he'll be feeling already will be enough for him to regret his words. His employer has nothing to do with it, and I just think that it's the SJW's doing their SJW thing that have blown this further out of proportion that it needed. It has nothing to do with his work capacity or job performance, and unless it harms the business (i.e. if he's a spokesperson for the company, or regularly deals with public who may recognise him as being the ignoramus from Twitter), or unless it's part of a code of conduct in his contract, they've got no real recourse to discipline him. I actually think if they did fire him the fellow who got in touch with AGL might have something to answer for. Don't think for second that I condone his comment though, the guy is obviously a dick!
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RHP User
7 years ago
The initial act stinks. The topic stinks. Twitter and SocMed stinks. Everyone thinks they have the right to grandstand, point the finger, say what they think, do what they want. Decency seems to have gone, in this Trump Generation. Fortress America has bred “Fortress Moi” from where the narcissistic occupant can lob their toxic grenades. Let’s go back to the old adage, “if you cannot say anything nice, don’t say it’ A veteran of 35,000 tweets, I look forward to Twitter’s final squark, “Trump and Twitter Are dead, long live free (but decent) speech!” M_D4 - Posted from rhpmobile
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
Quoting 'Snap_Dragon' Quoting 'pipsqueak' As for having shots at how someone looks in their profile pic, tad sad don’t you think ? I'm not really complaining about having my looks compared to Wonder Woman And mine looking vaguely similar (take ya glasses off) does that make me Wonder Trannie?
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tcm70
7 years ago
Annie raised it, but I agree. I can see some similiar style happening there. Sister warriors. You both look gorgeous. And seemingly have attitudes to match. 👍🏽
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RHP User
7 years ago
Can't believe all the interest in what a dickhead said about a football match! It's not the first time someone has said something stupid and won't be the last. Played over 300 games myself, have heard a lot of shit from over the fence and on the field. Not condoning anyone's behaviour but get over it. The sun will come up again tomorrow xxx - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Can't believe all the interest in what a dickhead said about a football match! It's not the first time someone has said something stupid and won't be the last. Played over 300 games myself, have heard a lot of shit from over the fence and on the field. Not condoning anyone's behaviour but get over it. The sun will come up again tomorrow xxx - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
You’re look banging in your profile pic but then I just saw Annie’s post and think yeah , both do look the same Banging Annie Trannie Banging Trannie :)
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
Someone banging Annie would be a bonus... .
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RHP User
7 years ago
Please accept my apologies then about Snaps pic , I thought you were having a shot at her , my bad and I misread and I agree totally, she’s gorgeous Seems to be a lot of focus on Dave’s original tweet If you reread the OP, the topic is not about Dave’s tweet. It would seem we all have a opinion on whether Dave’s a dick or not, but that is not the forum topic The forum topic is, did Jay cross a line by reporting Dave to his employer being AGL and does AGL have the right to reprimand Dave for what he does out of work hours ? Or another interpretation, you do something wrong out of work time, someone dobs you in to your employer and your employer tells that person they will be taking that up with you even if it’s not work related Did the dobber have the right ? Should your boss interfere in your down time activities if you are not trashing your employer in any way ? In other words, is the line between employer/employee blurred or is there a definite line that should not be crossed by the either party ? If this forum is of no interest to you, feel free not to comment and click on a topic that does and thanks for all your opinions so far
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RHP User
7 years ago
When did it become acceptable to tell people what they can( or can't ) be offended by..?
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tcm70
7 years ago
Never. No one has that right.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Really? How can you not see the comment was made with the knowledge of Neale's condition? "Will be good for Melbourne fans to get to hear Daniher slur the words to the song one last time I guess" why would he randomly name Neale and make mention of slurring one last time if he didn't know Neale is afflicted with such a horrible disease? In my opinion Dave is a cold, heartless human and is a very sore loser. He deserves all the backlash he gets by making that disgusting comment in a public forum. However I do not see the need to involve his employer, it was not work related nor was he representing the business.
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boobsandbusted
7 years ago
was an asshole for what he said ,but can a positive possibly come from it ,i think maybe as bad as what he said was , it’s certainly has got people up and about talking about mnd and that is a good thing if awareness is raised isn’t it ,don’t get me wrong yes there is better ways ,just trying to see a glass half full here after a lot of thinking. about did jay cross the line ,iniatialy i was on the fence mainly due to what dave did for a job, his contract and who the employer was ,after reading all the above posts. and taking some time to think about it ,my mind has changed ,to yes jay did cross the line and the employer shouldn’t be involved ever .i suppose i think a little different being self employed for 27 years, driving my van around covered in sighn writing a phone number ,and fb logos ,i’m aware if i stick my fingers up or do something wrong i could be easily screwed up via social media ,so i’m a good boy and watch my actions at all times reguarding my work ,and maintain if i wouldn’t say it out loud in the street or to your face ,i’m not doing it in socials ,imo the world would be a better place if everyone thought like that including dave ,who i hope has learnt a lesson and now does think about others and thinks before he types mr b - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'Snap_Dragon' Thankyou Surely is HOT, nothing to do with the post though. My only point was that there is a HUGE difference if the employer should be involved or not depending on if Dave knew about the condition prior. If he did not then it is just ignorant drunken frustrated statement thinking the guy drinks too much and doesn't coach very well (still wrong though but just bogon, uneducated drunken type talk), or the other is if he new about the condition then it borders on evil and maybe his employer should know about that sort of person. Not sure who can make that judgement though. Ill leave it at that.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Neale does have fucking slurring annoying impossible speech....massively obese cottage cheese covered fat people don't have big bones or a gland thingy they're fucking lazy or depressed or both.....midgets have anger issues and are compensated in inches.....stop tippy toeing around the realities....is it uncouth? sure! If 300 Neale d's started a class action...bang...winner! Is life too short....totes! Dipshit had bad day at office,his wife's no sex policy has his balls dragging and his footy team got owned by the Toorak Tractors....fuck the 'Neil slurring call" seems tame now.....be kind and love one another... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Neale does have fucking slurring annoying impossible speech....massively obese cottage cheese covered fat people don't have big bones or a gland thingy they're fucking lazy or depressed or both.....midgets have anger issues and are compensated in inches.....stop tippy toeing around the realities....is it uncouth? sure! If 300 Neale d's started a class action...bang...winner! Is life too short....totes! Dipshit had bad day at office,his wife's no sex policy has his balls dragging and his footy team got owned by the Toorak Tractors....fuck the 'Neil slurring call" seems tame now.....be kind and love one another... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
this years winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature right there ! I’m tempted to have your offensive post removed as the OP but yeah nah it’s more fitting that I don’t Be kind and love one another ? How about walk your talk ?
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
A reality check for everyone. People like this are out there posing as attractive couples. Careful it's a jungle out here in Melbourne. Thought it was the African gangs we had to watch out for.....
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting '2269nOWN' Neale does have fucking slurring annoying impossible speech....massively obese cottage cheese covered fat people don't have big bones or a gland thingy they're fucking lazy or depressed or both.....midgets have anger issues and are compensated in inches.....stop tippy toeing around the realities....is it uncouth? sure! If 300 Neale d's started a class action...bang...winner! Is life too short....totes! Dipshit had bad day at office,his wife's no sex policy has his balls dragging and his footy team got owned by the Toorak Tractors....fuck the 'Neil slurring call" seems tame now.....be kind and love one another... - Posted from rhpmobile Its Dave.......
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RHP User
7 years ago
MAJOR SNAUGH :) Oh Annie, I’ve found them in Sydney too !
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RHP User
7 years ago
I never understood why people post their place of employment on social media. I certainly wouldn't and I don't go around slagging people either! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Good fkn job he got dobbed in, shts on a dying man through social media which is pure coward act. Then he deletes his account...what a loser glad he got dobbed and hopefully exposed...cowards like that deserve everything they get. To many trolls taking cheap shots from behind there computer screens...about time they get exposed for what they are...fkn gutless cowards.
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RHP User
7 years ago
I must say. I fell the tweet person is a dick couldn’t hold his own disappointment in, for his team losing. I’m now also tipping he’s very remorseful for being such a fool As for the do gooder, they’re a cunt. Interfering with a mans lively hood, to make themselves feel good. So I don’t know who or how many might red my actually post. But I’ll put this forward Tweeter loses their job. Runs into do gooder. Belts the living fuck out of them. My question is. Where does it end
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RHP User
7 years ago
I like people making comments like Dave did, as it exposes what he’s probably really like. In a PC world where everyone wants to judge people, shit people are able to hide most of the time because they’re on their guard. I’d rather people were able to pretty much say and do what they like (in verbal actions) and then we can judge them for who they are and not what they may/may not actually be. Professional outrage does no good for society in my opinion, it just drives the nutters further underground until they explode. I’d rather see the dogs hit than accidentally step in it.
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RHP User
7 years ago
And that’s dog shit not dogs hit. I definitely don’t want dogs hit. Don’t call my employer....
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RHP User
7 years ago
I'd like to see the real original tweet, has anyone seen it! I reckon Dave and Jay should sort it out properly, good story tho👍
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RHP User
7 years ago
People fuck up all the time, it's their next move that defines a person. Once aware if their ownmorally wrong actions are they moving towards forgiveness, making an effort, value adding to the community, or to be written off as the accumulated detritus, to be cast aside, as fodder for the lamps for those that want to move ahead - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
..It's important to remember, that often, saying nothing, is saying something.And that's mentioned a lot here in RHP land...that no reply IS a reply. I've learned that much in my time here. When we don't speak up and voice our opinions on what we view as injustices...by default, we are often condoning them.That if we don't do something, say ANYTHING, about antisocial behaviour in our society....then we are accepting it. There's far too much indifference to the shit elements of society, unfortunately....far too much, "It's not my problem"...when all that's needed is a voice. A few words.
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
Perhaps the mods are a bit distracted and allowing non conforming pics to be approved. Eyes on the road......
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