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When is to old

February 02 2014

Today I watched DR OZ with a panel of 5 other doctors.The change in society has made women want a career or belay to have more fun.So here is the facts from new research,A woman at 20 to 30 has a 1 in 1000chance of having a baby with medical problems.At 30 to 40 the odds become 1 in 30 andI agree as over the years some friendsstarted late and there children have problems.In the USA there is a new trend for donor eggsso older women can have normal children and whatgets me is these people are not having there own offspring.To me this means women have become so selfish that they now don't care who's baby they carry.I want to hear your comments on this subject.

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Mine is that the second-last sentence of your posts is misogynistic, insulting and a reflection of who you have shown your online persona to be through your posts. IMHO.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    This is my last post directed at you. Good luck.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Sit over here with me and eat popcorn..... the fireworks are about to start lol ;-)

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    12 years ago

    Someone be humane and cut off his oxygen supply. That is all.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    You need to get counselling Chev. Your comments are appalling. They make you sound like a stupid, ignorant and rude individual. I think you have some serious mummy issues you need to deal with. And by the way, fuck off.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    "Whatever you give a woman, she's going to multiply. If you give her sperm, she'll give you a baby. If you give her a house, she'll give you a home. If you give her a groceries, she'll give you a meal. If you give her love, she'll give you her heart. She multiplies and enlarges what is given to her. So if you give her any crap - you will receive a ton of shit."

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    But if all the young things were off having babies.. who would you left to fantasize. . oops I mean tell us about how lucky you get with the young nubile things chev ? My actual thoughts I'll not even bother replying in this particular arena.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Unfortunate that it seems that more women are having children later in life, whether it's a voluntary "lifestyle" choice or economic necessity is the question. Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    have you considered moving to Texas (as in the American state)? You would fit right in there, with all the other 50+, white, male Republicans who totally get off on judging and interfering with women's reproductive choices. And as an added bonus, we wouldn't have to keep seeing your cretinous, uninformed, misogynistic drivel.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Fantastic comment! Love it. :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    What's the harm in it Chev? I dot see anything wrong with it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    OH that was it..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    It means we can breed out the dummies Chev.... I choose to carry a open minded, kind hearted and intelligent baby. I think I could order one of those. :p

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    12 years ago

    Just because people (as you say over 40) are choosing to carry donor eggs does not make them selfish, not one bit! In fact I give these women nothing but praise. These women are the ones who want children and will love them unconditionally, no matter if child is born with medical issues or not. Good for them. :) There are all sorts of medical reasons as to why these women can or can not have children. The comment you made, could been seen as really offensive to those who want children and can not, no matter what age the woman is , IVF is a path or an option they choose. To me they are not selfish, they are choosing a quality of Life, a gift. Really does it really matter where the eggs come from? Kiddo's to those who donate them and men for donating sperm as well. :) May I suggest before you post, be a little more sensitive and thoughtful of others and their situations. It's called compassion AND stay away from the TV shows. You are one brave man Chev. ;) Foxy

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'MrsPeachyPear' "Whatever you give a woman, she's going to multiply. If you give her sperm, she'll give you a baby. If you give her a house, she'll give you a home. If you give her a groceries, she'll give you a meal. If you give her love, she'll give you her heart. She multiplies and enlarges what is given to her. So if you give her any crap - you will receive a ton of shit." FOXY

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Not the most enlighten post here. As identified in an earlier post I think there may be an agenda for posting this. You think women are selfish, you maybe in the minority there you don't represent my views nor I think a majority of men. Why you think they are they selfish is the question, is it because they should be looking after men or some other out dated idea? And don't think I'm having a go at you in order to score brownie points with ladies. Give me and the ladies some credit and don't take these comments personally.

  • gazpacho

    gazpacho

    12 years ago

    Fact is there are plenty of otherwise healthy children that need parents with adequate resources to give them the love, protection, education and support that they need. ... .adopt one. HugsGazpacho

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Why does this concern you Chev? I'd really love to hear your thoughts on how / why this affects you....

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'MsElle72' Why does this concern you Chev? does that really matter? if it isn't just for a troll of the forums, its a topic that he finds interesting. I'm sure plenty of people have an interest in topics that will not directly affect them e.g. refugees, human rights violations and people smuggling. (For most of us, the closest to any impact these issues have on our day to day lives is via taxation - but it doesn't stop many from having an interest in the topic) My understanding was that the research that resulted in those odds was old, and flawed (I'm quite open to being corrected on that, Chev, were your odds taken from a direct look at current statistics?) I don't really care if a person wants to use an egg that they didn't produce. The only time I would see a problem is if there was a small pool of egg donors and a VERY high proportion of people using donor eggs, over a long time you'd have an impact on the gene pool. Chev, what difference does it make if the egg is a donor egg or not? You don't have some magical connection with a bunch of cells - if ran a blind trial with women who had their eggs replaced with someone elses they'd never know. They'd just have a baby at the end of it. The only contentious issue I see here is whether it was funded (either fully or partially) from the public purse.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    You watch wayyyy too much tv me thinks.... And that's what I saw on jerry springer - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    But IMO your judgement is incredibly simplistic, and judgemental on what in reality is an extroadinarily complicated issue. . In return, why should a woman not have the same right as any man to make of her life what she will before she brings a child into it? . A man after all only ever produce a baby using a woman's body... How many men past their half-century are producing babies in young women's bodies? Does that make them selfish? They may well not even be around to support the woman and see the child grow up. I wonder about that, but it's another complicated issue.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Your post sounds personal. A "She" has pissed you off. Get Over It ! And, "Will upgrade again for the right gal" FFS, You're a Premium Member. Move On Bloke. Update your profile, get rid of the Bloke pics. If I had a Clit, your profile wouldn't make me want to rub it.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Fuckwit is all I can conjure at the moment while I pick my jaw up off the floor. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    12 years ago

    inspirit, go sit with paint me, DG has Meander covered, fine line between acceleration and disintegration, normally directed at high speed motor vehicles, in this case, rather be in the high speed vehicle. Know you do this on purpose chevy darling, but what is the purpose. Starting to look like reason with intent. Mado Mado Tara xx

  • Lovinit28andKC72

    Lovinit28andKC72

    12 years ago

    Can't put brains in a monument... I've said it before and I will say it again, you're a sad, lonely old man... Do you really have nothing better to do than pass judgement on everyone and their choices... Besides that, most mothers that I know are possibly the most selfless people I know, regardless of their age.... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Maybe these older woman have older men....makes sense...right Therefore maybe your cromo's you are shooting are old and defective ... Ner! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    First off- what the fuck is a "normal" child?? Second- Exercising freedom of choice is not selfish in the slightest. Third- have you considered that sometimes having a baby while young is in some instances actually far worse for the mother, father AND the child?? Have you considered that the financial issues of parenting are scaring the shit out of young people and they decide not to have kids til they're more financially stable rather than introduce their child/ren to a life of welfare and/or minimalist living? Have you considered that with the divorce rate so high that people don't want to bring children into a broken home environment?? Have you considered anything or anyone besides your own closed minded opinion?? Are you so hard up for attention that you'll take it by any means?? What gives you the right to judge anyone's lifestyle or choices?? Are you so backwards that women are to be kept barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen from the day they turn 18??

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    12 years ago

    First your'e still a spring chicken yourself, and you know by now I/we think your'e gorgeous Shit I can fit half a dozen years into a jiffy, actually I have times where I can't remember what the fuck I did for five years, so that puts me right close to the thick of things there. Can assure you i am firing on all cylinders and flames shoot out of the tail pipe, can't see that changing for at least another 20- 30 years (modestly of course, leaves room for a bit of exaggeration) no need here though. Got to be a head thing, and chevy may not be seeing things quite the way the rest of you lot do, can't speak for myself, it's clearly noted, my head is a little misunderstood too. But I know it and confidant it will do the right things. But chevy seems to be a little numb for realisation to the disturbances his thoughts cause, sad or sick or damaged. As this stuff just seems to float past him. Are you on those anti-depressant pills chevy, that would explain the numbness for beginners, they do other things to people aswell. If you are seeing a Dr, maybe you should talk with him/her to these topics of yours then they can adjust or change the medication to suit.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'S_OnTheLoose' Quoting 'MsElle72' Why does this concern you Chev? does that really matter? if it isn't just for a troll of the forums, its a topic that he finds interesting. It may matter, it may not. I'm just curious as to why Chev posts the things he does. He certainly invokes strong reactions out of people. Am I not allowed to ask the question, ffs?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Thanks gals, it really was a moment of timing. :-)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Nursing sick neonates (newborn) for nearly all my adult life. There is virtually no abnormality I have not seen. The majority of these infants have been born to parents of normal child bearing age. Some of the worst defects I have seen have been from really young parents. Yes, a number of women have opted to start their reproducing later in life, but since since the advent of reliable contraception, that is a choice we are entitled to make for ourselves. It has also allowed and will allow more women to live longer healthier lifestyles from not being prematurely worn out before they are old, because they have too many offspring to rear. Not to mention the women who no longer die from illegal abortions because they can not face another pregnancy. Secondly, it is not always the ovum that is defective, male sperm can be blighted by men who drink, do drugs and have chromosomal abnormalities.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    And other similar Yankee shows of that ilk, they thrive on their sensationalistic topics for the mere sake of TV ratings. Hearing people sprout quotations from these types of programmes make me doubt the intelligence of the "sprouters".

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    You're too old , when you spend your days watching sensationalist , American Shite ! Get out of the house and into the sunshine , Chevy . GG♒️ - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Luckdragon23' have you considered moving to Texas (as in the American state)? You would fit right in there, with all the other 50+, white, male Republicans who totally get off on judging and interfering with women's reproductive choices. And as an added bonus, we wouldn't have to keep seeing your cretinous, uninformed, misogynistic drivel. Meander, Paint-Me, MrsPeachy, Meeka, Inspirit, all of you have voiced a little of the something I would like to say to the OP. Luckdragon, your comment is priceless.

  • gazpacho

    gazpacho

    12 years ago

    These words don't make sense to me: To me this means women have become so selfishthat they now don't care who's baby they carry. See... if a woman is carrying a baby.. that pretty much prima facie, makes it hers, I reckon. And rather than selfish, having children is more about the business of sharing, isn't it? HugsGazpacho

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I had my first at 34 my second at 36 Reason I had a shit childhood and had no intention to marry or kids. Then a great guy came along. And forum peeps. Some times we open mouths to change feet. Chev may not be the sharpest pencil in the RHP pencil case but we still need diversity of colour to make an interesting picture. The problem is he went to dr Oz and daytime tv. Lady t I am using my friends iPad

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Chev, do you realise how chauvinistic you sound at times? You are not endearing yourself to the female audience of RHP? How about some moderation, and if you are just only trying to wind us up, pick a better subject to do it with. DCB.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I kind of think it's strange that women want babies in their 50's and older. The oldest women to have a baby is 74 I think. I think that is selfish.

  • gazpacho

    gazpacho

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100' I kind of think it's strange that women want babies in their 50's and older. The oldest women to have a baby is 74 I think. I think that is selfish. That's not selfish. It's cruel. Imagine growing up in a household where you are having your ninth birthday and having to change the diapers on your 83 year old mother. That woman is looking for a child slave. HugsGazpacho

  • wingman2014

    wingman2014

    12 years ago

    You are ballsy man , Despite copping flak for most of your posts , you CHOOSE to carry on regardless . While I won't bag you for having an opinion , we all are entitled to have a say . I will say you have overlooked the most important point . That is that women CHOOSE to live their lives the way they see fit..... We all get one chance at life ... So our choices define who we are . - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    What the hell happened to boy meets girl fallin love and plan a future plus planning a family.Now its boy meets girl, sorry I am busy for nowbut later I can have some one else's child.Now I am not religious but I would have to say if I met and fell in love I would not want to hearher say we can plan a family with another womensegg or eggs.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Lets add this.So how many women here on rhp would saywait till there 40 and then implant another woman's egg to have a child and not reallyhave her own offspring.Normal---all there limbs and no mental issuesis a normal child.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    There may be many reasons why a women may use someone else's egg. I hardly think any woman would CHOOSE not to have her own offspring. Obviously medical reasons would be the main factor, so please don't go judging anyone until you've walked a mile in their shoes.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    My comment is not to demonize anyone and is not judgemental but fact. And it is fact that im sure some will not like. I recently had cause to deal with a young child who was severely intellectually anx mentally disabled. I will not go into why I dealt with this child, suffice to say it could have been a life or death situation. A conversation with the childs mother (via interpreter) gave the information that the child's mother was mid 60's. The childs mother was informed of the almost certain likelihood of extreme disability due to her age. (Taking into consideration a previous child with a mental disability) The woman admitted to having the child due to the financial benefits afforded to her (after registering the birth) in this country. My first and only thought was what a completely selfish woman to have a child at that age. To have not heeded all the medical warnings and to have a child that she could not care for just to gain financially.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Chev's point though is about women in their 30s and 40s being selfish because they wait so long to procreate, enjoying their life or establishing a career, and then use younger women's eggs to have a better chance of a healthy baby. :-) . I made a passing reference to much older women having babies, earlier in this thread and Meeka made a point about her opinion earlier in the thread.Your example goes even further though, that the woman is so selfish, she's doing it for the money. . Cheers, Peachy

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Some voices of reason and not condemnation.But still If I was say 28 and met a girl I would accept if she could not conceive.However if she said I want fun or career and use another's egg when older I would say hell no.On facebook I brought up the same thing and all the guys said no plus most gals said no.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    If you mean me, I don't think you could consider me a voice of reason. I do not agree with your point about a woman being selfish to use another woman's egg because she has chosen to make other life choices first. .

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'chevtrek' Some voices of reason and not condemnation.But still If I was say 28 and met a girl I would accept if she could not conceive.However if she said I want fun or career and use another's egg when older I would say hell no.On facebook I brought up the same thing and all the guys said no plus most gals said no. You have no idea why women are using the eggs of another. AND It is none of your business why they are. I think you would find that here in Australia, you can't just choose to have a baby through IVF . This is not yet the USA. And as for women choosing careers over dropping everything to become a mother, well wake up fecker. This is the 21st century and women decided years ago they'd had enough of men telling them how to live their lives. And selfish is usually a word that is applied when someone isn't meeting your expectations. You so enjoy the sensationalist bullshit of american TV don't you Chev? Watch Gerry Springer too? And I wouldn't get too excited about people agreeing with you. It seems everyone has qualified the situation where they consider giving birth in later life selfish and I didn't see choosing to have a career first among those reasons.