M72
The Safety Valve.
August 09 2016
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RHP User
9 years ago
There is a course called Mental Health First Aid, which is delivered by a few different organisations. If anyone would like to learn about how to help people with mental health issues, including those who are in crisis or suicidal, I would recommend doing that course.
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RHP User
9 years ago
I have always considered the majority of those that end up in jail to be victims of their own mental illness. I have yet to hear a convincing argument to say they are not mentally ill. They exhibit many the traits associated with a variety of mental health problems, drug addiction, impaired social perception, low self esteem, lack of self control, etc etc... We lock them up and call them criminals, they are labeled for life. They deserve the punishment and are worthy of no respect. I would step further and suggest that criminality is in fact a mental illness in its own right. W.H.O. defines Mental health as a state of well-being in which every individual realizes his or her own potential, can cope with the normal stresses of life, can work productively and fruitfully, and is able to make a contribution to their community. Why do we treat so many mentally ill as if they are to blame, why do we hold them accountable and others not? Why in a modern society do we insist on such a strongly polarised divide? Is it righteous to only care for those that allow us to feel safe?
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RHP User
9 years ago
Would be ok with that but as I wasn't being satisfied at the time I'm totally f####d off.
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RHP User
9 years ago
CHEER up, my mates, the wind does fairly blow; Clap n more sail, and never spare; Farewell, all lands, for now we are In the wide sea of drink, and merrily we go.Bless me, 'tis hot! another bowl of wine, And we shall cut the burning Line:Hey, boys! she scuds away, and by my headI know We round the world are sailing now.What dull men are those who tarry at home,When abroad they might wantonly roam, And gain such experience, and spy, too, Such countries and wonders, as I do!But pr'ythee, good pilot, take heed what you do, And fail not to touch at Peru! With gold there the vessel we'll store, And never, and never be poor, No, never be poor any more. Abraham Cowley.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Clap *on* more sail, and never spare;
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RHP User
9 years ago
I am loving your predicliction for poets of the seventeenth century..my favourite is Aphra Behn.poet,playwrite and spy..have to have a vent here ,so I wish I could time travel backwards,what a great conversation Aphra and I would have Q
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RHP User
9 years ago
How strongly does my passion flow;Divided equally 'twixt two?Damon had ne'er subdued my heart,Had not Alexis took his part;Nor could Alexis powerful prove,Without my Damon's aid, to gain my love. When my Alexis present is,Then I for Damon sigh and mourn;But when Alexis I do miss,Damon gains nothing but my scorn.But if it chance they both are by,For both alike I languish, sigh, and die. Curse then, though mighty winged god,This restless fever in my blood;One golden-pointed dart take back:But which, O Cupid, wilt thou take?If Damon's, all my hopes are crost;Or that of my Alexis, I am lost. Aphra Behn1640 - 1689
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RHP User
9 years ago
To thee, fair freedom! I retireFrom flattery, cards, and dice, and din;Nor art thou found in mansions higherThan the low cot, or humble inn. 'Tis here with boundless power I reign;And carry every health which I begin,Converts dull port to bright champagne;Such freedom crowns it, at an inn. I fly from pomp, I fly from plate!I fly from falsehood's specious grin;Freedom I love, and form I hate,And choose my lodgings at an inn. Here, waiter! take my sordid ore,Which lackeys else might hope to win;It buys, what courts have not in store;It buys me freedom at an inn. Whoe'er has travelled life's dull round,Where'er his stages may have been,May sigh to think he still has foundThe warmest welcome at an inn. William Shenstone1714 - 1763
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RHP User
9 years ago
That female guests can no longer message male guests with our free message Q
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RHP User
9 years ago
I'd posted a measured response to the controversial issue that has been floating around further up this thread. Mostly echoing my sentiments that the mental health first aid course is extremely valuable, from memory. It's been deleted. Could I perhaps get an indication as to why, mods? I'm disappointed, as I was careful to not post anything that might inflame a delicate situation.
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RHP User
9 years ago
I requested that the mods either post all the posts on the subject of suicide or remove them all. PG thanks for raising awareness of the mental health first aid course. I'd like to learn more about it, I'm off to search it.
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RHP User
9 years ago
I think the mods just vacuumed up everything Q
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Summersolstice' Have you still not finished that bloody book yet? Perhaps she's just living for dreams? Then again, perhaps it's just that a good story is worth a re-read...
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'Summersolstice' Have you still not finished that bloody book yet? obviously be a good read, and going through it more than once...
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RHP User
9 years ago
This chapter is just too much fun. ;-)
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
Thank you for your latest post and explaining yourself. You didn't have too. Now we can move on. :) Ms Foxy x
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'ontology' Quoting 'Summersolstice' Have you still not finished that bloody book yet? Perhaps she's just living for dreams? Then again, perhaps it's just that a good story is worth a re-read... Lyrics from Adrian Gurvitz - Classic
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RHP User
9 years ago
Going by each of his media appearances thus far, it is clear to me Senator-elect Michael Roberts will prove to be a thoroughly exasperating figure for anyone at all to deal with. It will be very interesting to see the function of the Australian Senate over this term of Parliament. I would anticipate he has already effectively dealt himself out of negotiations on most any matter of substance. In effect, I suspect this means his own constituents (and all of the rest of us too) will be left all the poorer for it. On the basis of what I have seen so far, I cannot see any useful contribution he might make to the political discourse or function of this nation! NUMPTY!
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RHP User
9 years ago
His name is Malcolm Roberts - but I still think he's a Numpty...
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
Bare foot shoe shopping at lunch, got to love that! Stayed the night away from home last night, get to work and my favourite pair of boots split at the sole. I can't go home as it's an hour's drive. Lucky I work opposite Brisbanes largest shopping centres. I might take an extra loooong break. One never knows how many boots I may buy (just in case for back up). :) Ms Foxy
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RHP User
9 years ago
I went food shopping yesterday and managed to buy a sexy new bra in the sales. Its the first thing Ive treated myself to since being back to work. Why oh why can't I resist buying lovely lingerie???? Have a good day, Im sure youll get what youre looking for and more xx
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'Kokohoney' I went food shopping yesterday and managed to buy a sexy new bra in the sales. Its the first thing Ive treated myself to since being back to work. Why oh why can't I resist buying lovely lingerie???? Have a good day, Im sure youll get what youre looking for and more xx Edible bra's ??? An new line of exotica ? Tall
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' Bare foot shoe shopping at lunch, got to love that! Stayed the night away from home last night, get to work and my favourite pair of boots split at the sole. I can't go home as it's an hour's drive. Lucky I work opposite Brisbanes largest shopping centres. I might take an extra loooong break. One never knows how many boots I may buy (just in case for back up). :) Ms Foxy women complain men only have a one track mind.... Tall
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
Quoting 'Summersolstice' Quoting 'Summersolstice' Every time I try to quote someone, I get sent to the first page of the thread and have to start from scratch. It's getting old! The tech guy can't find the problem. I'm on Chrome, what about the others who are having issues? I'm on chrome as well.The issue happens if you have gone to the post via your stream. In other words, using the new feature and clicking on the post to go there direct.It does not occur if you have gone to the post you want to quote via the old way. In other words, go to the thread, select the page and scroll down to the post and then quote. Glad we sorted that out............ Better let the tech guy know. Just ask Auntie......
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
You deserve it! I think somehow, you'll be going back for more. You go girl. Ms Foxy x
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RHP User
9 years ago
I need somewhere to keep the melons?
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'ontology' Going by each of his media appearances thus far, it is clear to me Senator-elect Michael Roberts will prove to be a thoroughly exasperating figure for anyone at all to deal with. It will be very interesting to see the function of the Australian Senate over this term of Parliament. I would anticipate he has already effectively dealt himself out of negotiations on most any matter of substance. In effect, I suspect this means his own constituents (and all of the rest of us too) will be left all the poorer for it. On the basis of what I have seen so far, I cannot see any useful contribution he might make to the political discourse or function of this nation! NUMPTY! I agree with your assessment - but I do have an issue with that QandA episode. A physicist, mathematician and engineer are arguing about the climate - which one is the 'authority'? The articles coming out about him suggest he should've deferred to Cox because he is a "scientist", if he studied climate science then perhaps - but a guy who has formal qualifications in worrying about gas concentrations in tunnels, and a guy who did his biggest science work with vacuums in tunnels; neither are qualified experts in the field who are exempt from backing up their ideas with proof. I agree with Cox's position - but I felt the whole thing cheapened scientific comment. It wasn't really attacking the idea based on anything but being a slicker personality for providing sound bites and getting laughs e.g. the moon landing question. He could've followed up with a Yo Momma joke and that would've been hailed as further strength to the argument. Roberts was easy fodder as a One Nation pollie and climate change sceptic - but the way they did it was more like a trial by media playing for easy laughs than as something serious.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Qefenta1' I think the mods just vacuumed up everything Q While their vacuuming can they fix my bed as well!!!
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RHP User
9 years ago
I agree. Unfortunately, such handling of contentious issues in the media (and elsewhere) is commonplace. For a number of reasons, I seldom watch Q&A nowadays. "A physicist, mathematician and engineer are arguing about the climate..." reads like the beginnings of a joke, huh?! To his credit, as far as I am aware, Cox has previously declared it is not his field of expertise. Rather, he has stated that he does (and recommends others also) defer to the relevant experts, and that he uses his media profile and talent as a science communicator to help articulate the scientific position to lay people. After posting my comment last night, I read some more about Malcolm Roberts and his background. I now find his election to political office even more incredible. Due to the reduced quota that applies to Double Dissolution elections, just 77 first preference votes below the line were enough to get him in to the Senate! I think the media did us all a great disservice by not drawing Queenslanders' attention to this man's views and background prior to the election. I read some views which suggest he was not considered a serious contender. Others have suggested that now he has been elected, he will at least provide entertainment value via political cartoonists and his own gaffes...
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'Kokohoney' I need somewhere to keep the melons? Edible storage would only be a temporary solution at best ....
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Unfortunately it appears that we have lost another fellow forumite.It looks like I Touch has left the building. I do not know all of the background to this particular happening, as I don't read all the threads on site, but it appears some have taken exception to what I Touch contributes to the site, and she has had enough of the poor receptions. Personally I will miss I Touch very much. She was always a straight shooter (as many of you are), but also had a well developed sense of humour. She didn't mind sharing experiences, and was always quite open about herself. To each their own about how we contribute here, but I didn't mind her general style. I hope that she will reconsider her position, and return again. I enjoyed her "full of life" attitude with her writings. Tall
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RHP User
9 years ago
Pity it's not more about sex. That would be Peachy
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RHP User
9 years ago
My physio is an ex international sportsman. He has had a few ankle ligament injuries. "Just another sprain" was the attitude, until his wife had the same injury for the first time. From then on it was "Hurts more than childbirth." Made me chuckle last time he strapped me up. Yes, it hurts. No internal reference to go by though... I hope the poor boy recovers well- sounds like not by finals time though. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
I disagree with your comments. Sometimes when people are so negative and judgemental against others it will be picked up by others and commented on.
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
Is gonesky
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RHP User
9 years ago
There's thunder and pouring rain outside. This morning I was reminded this morning of the joy of a beachside cafe in the summertime. Who else is ready for summer? A cure for the current cabin fever. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
Being obsessional I do hate editing fails. This morning. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Summersolstice' With all due respect, any ongoing belittling and ridiculing of people with different experiences and preferences to a poster by just that poster is bullying too. The reason those denigrating remarks are not referred to as such is imo because they come from a single poster and are not backed up by others. That doesn't make that person any less of a bully though, and it is good to remember that even one single person can have the power to wound someone. All too true. Magnify that when the pack sets in and the wounds are more numerous it would seem.
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'Summersolstice' With all due respect, any ongoing belittling and ridiculing of people with different experiences and preferences to a poster by just that poster is bullying too. The reason those denigrating remarks are not referred to as such is imo because they come from a single poster and are not backed up by others. That doesn't make that person any less of a bully though, and it is good to remember that even one single person can have the power to wound someone. Purely from my own observations in my time within the forums, there have been quite a number who have taken to the forums who would like to have their own views expressed as more "valid" than others. It has not been the purview of a single poster as has been implied - there are indeed a number who have voiced their own overly excessive views on occasion, which could easily be taken as bullying. As mentioned, I do not know the full background of the circumstances involved, but there is certainly more than one individual herein who likes to try and influence matters to their own perspectives. Tall
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RHP User
9 years ago
Still seems quite attractive at the moment... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
she's still getting all the attention, I'm sure she's still reading so she'll be loving that.
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'CandyDelicious' I disagree with your comments. Sometimes when people are so negative and judgemental against others it will be picked up by others and commented on. but I Touch was not alone as far as that goes. From what I have seen it was not always a matter of what's good for the goose -...double standards unfortunately do appear to come alone for the ride. Tall
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Just for the record, I haven't read the aforementioned "Oral thread", so I have no idea of what went on there. My words have been solely based on the smaller number of postings I have read... Tall
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
No misread. Both of your postings were trying to lay the "blame" solely at the feet of a single poster. I did not make any mention at all regarding multiple people, that was another poster. What I replied with is that there have been many people who have contributed to such situations previously, yet only one has been singled out. Another oft used term comes to mind - "gaslighting". Tall
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Luck_Dragon' she's still getting all the attention, I'm sure she's still reading so she'll be loving that. Really? Snippy much..? Not like you.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Betty7216' Was taking my eldest (15) to our GP this afternoon to get clearance on his concussion before resuming rugby training - I knew he wasn't right, and am glad I trusted my instincts... he is back to stage one - no screens, reading/writing, no school - until the headaches & dizziness go away. On top of that, as I picked him up I noticed he was limping, said he'd rolled his ankle... took a look, knew he was stuffed... 3 hours of doctors and X-rays later, he has torn a ligament, and possibly done some tendon damage... Poor boy can't win a trick at the moment :( On the up side, they originally thought he needed surgery... and I've had an ankle reco, so I'm well versed in dealing with this injury... Now I have the song "Always look on the bright side of life" from Life Of Brian going through my head... you're welcome ;) Your son got concussed playing rugby? You caught my attention with that because I got concussed playing Aussie rules as a 17yo. I copped a blow to the back of my head as I was running to pick up the ball in play. I stood up almost straight away, but tripped over my feet and was helped off the field.A week later I had my first grand mal seizure. I had many more over the next decade. The bruising to the brain had resulted in Epilepsy. I stopped taking my medication 2 years ago...my own gamble...and I had made a decisive shift in how I look after my health some years prior to that, and I appear to be okay. But who knows.I'm not one to preach to others usually, but it had seemed like such a simple thing at the time...that had a huge impact on my life as a young man.I hope your son heals up okay. Really, I do.
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madotara69
9 years ago
Quoting 'Tall_n_Hard' Unfortunately it appears that we have lost another fellow forumite.It looks like I Touch has left the building. I do not know all of the background to this particular happening, as I don't read all the threads on site, but it appears some have taken exception to what I Touch contributes to the site, and she has had enough of the poor receptions. Personally I will miss I Touch very much. She was always a straight shooter (as many of you are), but also had a well developed sense of humour. She didn't mind sharing experiences, and was always quite open about herself. To each their own about how we contribute here, but I didn't mind her general style. I hope that she will reconsider her position, and return again. I enjoyed her "full of life" attitude with her writings. Tall Your post was headed with 'Bullying" You think Itm2 was bullied out of the forums, you think a few of us ganged up on her, are these quoted your words or hers 'but it appears some have taken exception to what I Touch contributes to the site, and she has had enough of the poor receptions.' When she began posting, half a dozen each page each topic, speaking out "how she see's it' at almost anything anyone said, it was not long before she started to express being bullied. A few times I attempted being friendly, engaging in banter, the kind of stuff most who post do, and I was accused of being sarcastic, insulted with a rant, amongst the flurry with multiple posts, multiple topics, multiple quotes above and beyond pretty much any of us all. Then have the posts removed in a flash If she has left for any reason other than to be medicated, Bullying is not what happened, so why say it ? because she said
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Tall_n_Hard'Purely from my own observations in my time within the forums, there have been quite a number who have taken to the forums who would like to have their own views expressed as more "valid" than others. some people's views ARE more valid - just because someone holds a particular viewpoint doesn't mean that it isn't a load of garbage and that the person shouldn't be called out for spouting nonsense.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Summer wasn't necessarily referring to a particular single poster ie I_touch but to the fact that over the years there have been a few people whose views were unpopular with many. Does this constitute bullying no ,but if consistent and constant attacks occur outside of specific rebuttals then IMO that constitutes bullying. Q
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RHP User
9 years ago
Don't want to go to work today ......
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RHP User
9 years ago
about the medication comment, that's not appropriate at all. However, to posture that this person (yes we know who I'm referring to) was an innocent victim who was just reasonably speaking their mind is disingenuous at best. I've said before, that people can only take so many snide remarks, personal digs, and condescending lectures about why their preferences and lifestyle are inferior to someone else's before they will retaliate. I think the other aspect here is that nothing anyone said to this person appeared to make a difference, they continued to harshly judge and insult others while expressing sentiments that basically reflected a belief that they should be allowed to say whatever they liked without rebuttal. Once it got to the stage where many people were sick of the behaviour and were challenging it, the bullying card was played. That's my last comment on the matter.
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RHP User
9 years ago
She was very quick to pm me every time I made a comment that didn't agree with what she said. So I stopped commenting to avoid the attacks. There are always more sides to a story and I find your defence of her ridiculous. But then you are a male and I'm sure your interaction was much more civilised that what it was for some of us females.
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
I wasn't going to say a thing. Summer, you did mention Itouch's name yesterday, and brought her into this forum from the oral forum. Then you questioned why it went missing, then reworded your new post, without her name. Maybe that was why it went missing. Who knows? Have no idea. Maybe we do need to move on, you are right, I agree, let's move on talking about anyone (in particular I touch) as posters do normally return. Ms Foxy
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RHP User
9 years ago
I wont be starting a new oral thread. The Oral question has a history of going 'down', scuse my pun. It is one of those topics that seems to trigger negative responses. Peachy
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RHP User
9 years ago
If you are reading this, I for one would regret you not coming back. It does take a lot when you give so much. Peachy xox
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RHP User
9 years ago
You hot, thick cut salty demons. Luring me every time and making my clothes shrink to the point that its not funny any more....
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'Summersolstice' I don't get your comment, and not sure how else to explain mine, Tall. Lol @ gaslighting, getting me back for accusing you of the same more than once? I expected you would deflect...
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
I Touch was not the only poster who could be prolific when a particular subject matter happened to be of a particular interest - there are plenty who fall into that scope, including yourself. You had what you perceive to be negative responses from I Touch on instances, regardless of your actions. I don't know the extent of that so I won't respond. My own interactions with her have been on the whole quite positive. As I made mention, she had strong opinions and wasn't afraid to voice them, but that is nothing out of the ordinary here as many are also of the same cloth. And yes, I stand by my words regarding the bullying aspect - that was my observation and that is why I put it down. And no it was not what she may have said - I do think independently and am not controlled by a third party, which should be pretty clear by now. Tall
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'S_OnTheLoose' Quoting 'Tall_n_Hard'Purely from my own observations in my time within the forums, there have been quite a number who have taken to the forums who would like to have their own views expressed as more "valid" than others. some people's views ARE more valid - just because someone holds a particular viewpoint doesn't mean that it isn't a load of garbage and that the person shouldn't be called out for spouting nonsense. I agree with your sentiment completely, there are such instances and people will be called out to substantiate a particular viewpoint. But my comment was meant to be taken in the context of 'general' discussion - we all have viewpoints on subjects and as we are all different, we shall usually see things differently as well. Tall
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'Qefenta1' Summer wasn't necessarily referring to a particular single poster ie I_touch but to the fact that over the years there have been a few people whose views were unpopular with many. Does this constitute bullying no ,but if consistent and constant attacks occur outside of specific rebuttals then IMO that constitutes bullying. Q In Summer's initial (now deleted) post, Summer made specific referral to I Touch. However, I agree with the balance.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Get off the Itouch subject? She has left for now and its her choice. No one forced the issue. Pointing the blame is making everyone look bad. There are bigger issues Im sure. XX
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RHP User
9 years ago
I may not agree with everything ITM2 says, and I have been "attacked" by her before as well when our opinions clash, but at the end of the day, she is a very interesting and frank individual, hard to grasp at times, but that's part of her unique charm. I don't think we should rejoice at anyone's departure from the forums. We should live and let live, and be forgiving. We all have different definitions and thresholds for what constitutes bullying. But, bullying the "bully" does not make anyone righteous either. In fact, that just makes the bully and the bully of the bully stuck in a perpetual tit for tat battle. I for one, would hate to see anyone bullied or ganged up against out of the forums. Dissenting views make the forums interesting. If we can't handle opinions different from our own, maybe it's not the commenter who needs to change, but the narrow-minded, self-righteous person. Chip on the shoulder? Woe to the day everyone sings to the same tune in here! It would only mean that others with different views have been frightened away from expressing different opinions and only the pack remains, masturbating each other's fragile egos.
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RHP User
9 years ago
... on anyone who is happy that someone is hurting so much that they have decided to leave. I haven't followed the forums much because I've been busy so I don't know the details but still, to rejoice at someone's departure is truly nasty. So much hatred, venom and gall! It's ugly and repulsive. I have people IRL who have been bullies and schemed and plotted for my destruction and downfall. I do hate them but even so, I cannot find it in me to curse them because at the end of the day, no one is 100% bad and we are all somebody's child / parent / Caregiver / lover. The narrow-mindedness and vengeful hatred borne by some is truly repulsive. You are no better than bullies yourselves. If someone has erred, point it out diplomatically and then allow opportunities for reflection or change by leaving the whole thing alone. Relentlessly attacking anyone like an out-of-control Rottweiler is not merciful, very unkind, allows no room for reformation because the "bully" has been cornered and the primal urge would then be to continue fighting which perpetuates bad behaviour. Retaliating against a bully by being an even bigger bully... Yeah, sure... Only those with a hidden propensity for bullying in the first place will resort to that very behaviour under the convenient cloak of being "justified". I think we should all learn to fight fair and not make it all too personal. The amount of catty, bitchy gossiping that goes on behind the scenes is phenomenal. That, to a degree, is bullying too because you are all gathering to gossip and collectively hate a common target.
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madotara69
9 years ago
Ss, although now you've mentioned it, we bought some beppy sponges recently, little pink ones in the shape of love hearts. Oh that too, I'll let this fly and It's not that I don't like getting roused on, it's quite sexy actually, but are you suggesting.. Friendship, love, good music, food even wine at times,.. Are not all good medicine? I think that very often it's the best medicine in the whole wide world.:p - Posted from rhpmobile
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Seachange73
9 years ago
am on a interstate trip atm and back tonight. lots of eating out and more sedentary work. I swear i have spent so much time sitting at meetings and around my desk reading work materials . i can almost say that everytime I get out of my seat, I need to be surgically detached from it. ayayay!!! And eating out every meal is nto helping in the 'snug' feeling I get when i get dressed into my suit in the morn.... Now those chips sound mighty tasty. At least I can blame the fries... with some hot peri-peri sauce...
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Seachange73
9 years ago
My golly gee... a few days off the forum and all these shenanigans going on.... It's like watching the Olympic table tennis matches... balls hit left and right and centre. Tomorrow is another day and a Friday. Let's bygone be bygone and I hope that Melbourne weather extends to tomorrow so I can enjoy the warm sunny 21C out there! sounds like a english heat wave.
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RHP User
9 years ago
I am probably wrong, but didnt I read recently where itm had found a dom and she was happy and saw this as her future?
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